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Scrim Camo
"You are calling in a strike on a chicken coop?" | |
Great lengths are taken in covering the body of a tank or the legs of an artillery piece but the barrel sticks out and gives away the game. Fancy camo netting, brush and trees, piles of hay and garbage are used to anonymize pieces of military equipment. Then the barrel sticks out. The problem seems to
be to break up that straight line or make it part of something else.
What if you had a lightweight printed scrim on a spring wire like the ones used inside a car windshield to shield interiors? I’m sure there are shapes and colors and patterns that could completely (almost) hide a tank barrel. Make it look like the collapsed side of an old building leaning over. A chicken coop. A greenhouse with busted windows made of mylar. Anything that had a roof ridgeline and could be spoofed.
Or debris. A pile of PVC pipes. Lumber. Old rusty farm equipment. A pile of tires. Dead cow. Puddle.
You could also use destroyed equipment or buildings to lure enemy fire by making the scrim look like a perfectly functioning unit or the entrance to a trench dugout, command center or a drone garage.
The Scrim Camo folds into itself and stores easily. In some cases it wouldn’t have to be removed between missions from the same place. Inkjet printed, they could be tweaked and customized for specific locations and equipment and produced very quickly. A few could be arranged to better effect in some applications if they were made to work together, a kit that clipped together.
We need to mount an effort like the Surrealists in WWII.
WWII Surrealist Camoflage
https://www.townand...rose-salvador-dali/
How to help even if you are a crazy artist. [minoradjustments, Aug 15 2023]
Just render it invisible.
https://www.google....a82,vid:CFiPJjrmmtE
[2 fries shy of a happy meal, Aug 15 2023]
Lampshades?
https://tvtropes.or...in/LampshadeHanging
[pertinax, Aug 15 2023]
Best Bullpups 2023
https://www.pewpewt...up-rifles-shotguns/
Just look cool like an Israeli [minoradjustments, Aug 16 2023]
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Surely it would be easier to instead disguise everything else as a tank or artillery piece, so that the enemy wouldn't know which target to select? |
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Why does the barrel have to stick out? |
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Indeed, don't the Brits have those compact rifles where the barrel starts all the way back by the shooter's nose? Why can't we design a tank, artillery piece, etc based on that design? |
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// Surely it would be easier to instead disguise everything else as a tank or artillery piece, so that the enemy wouldn't know which target to select? // |
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Good idea, but that's a lot of work to make an object that might not be the exact size/shape look like a tank. |
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So instead, just put a false barrel sticking out of each haystack, chicken coop, brush pile, etc. Now it could be that when quickly scanning surveillance photos, a person will be able to clue in on the barrel, but when they look carefully at it, they can distinguish a real chicken coop from a tank disguised as one. So throw a cheap camo net over the chicken coop or haystack with a barrel sticking out. Of course if you do all the chicken coops this way, you'll need to throw a net over the tanks disguised a chicken coops to make them match. |
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//Then the barrel sticks out. The problem seems to be to break up that straight line or make it part of something else.// |
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[scad] Yes, that's the kind of thing I mean. If, for every actual tank, there were 100 things that weren't tanks but which looked like a tank, you'd reduce by a factor of 100 the chance of your actual tanks being hit. |
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/whatrock/ Oh yeah. That's a bullpup rifle design, where the trigger is in front of the firing pin and the barrel extends back to the stock. It's harder to do with a shell that weighs 96 lbs and has to be loaded from the back into a breach that withstands the full force of the 15 lbs of explosive. Some of the self-propelled artillery does place the breach nearer the back of the vehicle so the barrel doesn't stick out as much [Russian Pion]. I don't know what the thinking is for that except concealment, but there are probably other factors like barrel length, munition requirements, etc. |
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