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[-] My response to this idea may be offensive to
[xenzag] as well as any Halfbaker who holds
[xenzag] in high regard. Therefore I have encoded
it using a simple ROT13 "encryption". Please
decrypt this only if you are willing to be offended. |
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Guvf vf na vaabingvir vqrn, ohg V qba'g guvax vg
fbyirf nalguvat. V guvax crbcyr ner trarenyyl zber
bssraqrq ol gur snpg gung bgure crbcyr ner ivrjvat n
qrsnzngbel fgngrzrag be vzntr guna gurl ner bs
yrneavat gur rknpg pbagrag bs gung zrffntr
gurzfryirf. Guvf naabgngvba vf zrnag gb or
fbzrjung bs n grfg bs guvf vqrn. 1) Qvq nalbar
obgure gb qrpelcg guvf zrffntr? 2) Ubj qvq lbh srry
orsber qrpelcgvat guvf zrffntr? 3) Ubj qb lbh srry
abj? 4) Jbhyq vg unir znqr n qvssrerapr vs gur
zrffntr jnf npghnyyl uvtuyl qrebtngbel naq/be vs V
jrer jryy xabja sbe znxvat qrebtngbel fgngrzragf. |
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Please encrypt any replies to my annotation in
ROT13 as well if they may be offensive to avoid
hurting [xenzag]'s feelings. |
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1) Qvq nalbar obgure gb qrpelcg guvf zrffntr? |
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Whfg bhg bs phevbfvgl, vf vg cbffvoyr gb qrivfr n
zrffntr juvpu vf vagryyvtvoyr obgu orsber naq nsgre
EBG13-vat vg? |
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Vg'f vzcbffvoyr - one bar. |
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Irel tbbq, [ZnkjryyOhpunana]. Gurer zhfg or bguref. |
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V jbaqre ubj dhvpxyl bar pbhyq yrnea gb ernq guvf fghss syhragyl? |
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Rail & vex, green terra!
Ant, irk nag; nag, irk ant -
Or abjurer be |
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V jnf pbeerpg va nffhzvat fbzrobql unq jevggra n jro-onfrq ebg13 ra/qrpbqre. |
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Nf n obahf, V jvyy abj guvax bs ZnkjryyOhpunana nf Mvaxwreel Bu Chanan (zber be yrff). |
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V jnfa'g n sna bs guvf vqrn, hagvy V ernq fpnq'f gubhtugshy
pbzzrag - sbe fbzr ernfba, ebg13-vat vg znxrf vg n ybg zber
sha. Vs na nanybt gb ebg13 pbhyq or sbhaq va cevag (V
qba'g guvax fpengpu-gb-erzbir dhvgr svgf gur ovyy) gura V'q
or n [+] ba guvf bar. Lrf, lbh pbhyq cevag ragver pbyhzaf va
ebg13, onfvp crapvy naq cncre jbhyq or nyy gung'f erdhverq
gb qrpbqr. |
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Encouraging censorship as a social ideal [-] |
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A Glasses app could easily decipher rot13 text as selected by
the user. |
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// nanybt gb ebg13 // Jryy gurer vf zveebe jevgvat,
ohg n ybg bs crbcyr pna ernq gung cerggl rnfvyl
jvgubhg n zveebe. |
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Has anyone used ROT10/3 or did I just create it out of
whole cloth? That would be where consonants and vowels
are rotated separately (treating y as vowel to keep it
symmetric. I feel, possibly without justification, that this is
more likely to produce ciphered text that reads as plain
text. |
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The actual value of this, of course, is absolutely nothing. |
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Tempting to say the ROT(13) has set in. |
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[Zupt U], FAH10/3 gaebqg xywu o jufi ybhufughybs jofyohyab. Htyg yg ktoh yh xaawg xywu. |
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Bypu yquo, neh FAH10/3 qaugb'h xaaw zept zafu
fuoqonxu ha zu. Cfanonxi nupoegu iae ghyxx ubq
ec kyht o xah ar pabgabobhg rfaz [corrected] htu
ubq ar htu
oxctonuh htoh ofub'h eguq zept. |
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Yup, absolutely no justification. Although I do think
it might be a little easier to learn to transpose
mentally, but that might just be me. |
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Scratch to see AND sniff? No, on second thoughts,
maybe not. |
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Whfg na nfvqr gb cebzbgr ebg47 - vg'f rffragvnyyl ebg13,
bayl vg rapbzcnffrf ahzoref, yrggref, hccre-pnfr, ybjre-pnfr
naq fbzr onfvp chapghngvba gbb. Vg znvagnvaf gur cebcregl
gung rapelcg/qrpelcg vf flzzrgevp, gurer vf whfg n jvqre frg
bs punenpgref gung gnxr cneg. Sbe trareny grkg, vg ybbxf
yvxr guvf: |
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|2CJ 925 2 =:EE=6 =2>3[ :ED 7=6646 2D H9:E6 2D D?@H |
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green ant barf ebbs if one errs |
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Ohg, [m-g], vg'f n ybg yrff boivbhf jung punenpgref ner vapyhqrq be jung beqre gurl ner va. Gur nycunorg unf n irel fgnoyr trareny beqre naq ahzore. V xabj gurer ner fgnaqneq pbzchgre rapbqvatf ohg gurl ner bayl xabja gb n unaqshy bs jrveqbf. |
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Thanks [pocmloc]. Is that better? |
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Much obliged. I have forgotten what this idea was about, though. |
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.....scratches head to get at hidden memory..... |
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One simple, low-tech option for printed text (and possibly
images) would be to intercalate two lines of text |
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Swoimteht hai nmgo nloiskpea ctehdi sf obnutt. |
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To read the article one would overlay with an acetate sheet
printed with vertical black lines, which could be supplied in
a sealed envelope with the magazine. |
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Now I want there to be a ROT13 version of the HB. It might make more sense. |
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//Scratch to see AND sniff? No, on second thoughts, maybe no |
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item 2 on that list already done, and mentioned more than a few times, Douglas Adams.. |
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Variable levels of prudishness red tinted glasses, so all naughty stuff in red should come over as black, if that helps. Of course libertines would just reverse them. |
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Any idea what happens with 3d specs for red/cyan images, if you wear them the wrong way around? |
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feline frosted tips, wal-mart, theocracy, server
failure... |
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A reddit-style comment-ranking system plus
facebook-style user hiding system might be an
alternative, though probably not a good one |
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//hide controversial images//
Therein, I think, lays the problem with this idea, xenzag. Who is to say what is or isn't controversial? How many people have to be offended before something qualifies? A billion? A million? A thousand? Or just one? To my mind, freedom of speech is not divisible, no matter how distasteful some of it might be.
Edmund Blackadder: I understood that it was standard maritime practice for a ship to have a crew.
Captain Redbeard Rum: Opinion is divided on the matter. All the other captains say that it is. I say that it isn't! |
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Dr Bob.... All freedoms come with responsibility. This is
why there are laws against racism in places where people
have the greatest freedom of expression. Even the
halfbakery has parameters as to that which can be said,
and
not said, and that means even you have agreed to
respecting those limits by
being on this site. |
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xen, the way to deal with those sort of views is to expose them to the cold light of reason & ridicule so that people, including those that express them, can see them for the deluded rubbish that they undoubtedly are. Otherwise they fester away in some dark corner & spring out when you least expect them.
Acting in a racist manner is not the same thing as expressing a racist view; although I would agree that it is likely that the one often follows on from the other. If it does, then the law, if any, should be properly applied.
For example, stating that you think black people are inferior to white people on an internet forum or in a magazine is not the same thing as yelling at someone on the street that they are, and please excuse the phrase, 'a lazy nigger' or refusing to employ black people. The former is just a ridiculous argument based on no coherent evidence whereas the latter are assaults on an individual's dignity & well-being & should be cracked down on hard.
I could make similar arguments about holocaust deniers, or various flavours of fundamentalists or whatever.
When I logon to the 'bakery I am stepping into jutta's house, therefore I obey her rules (mostly) or I get the hell out. People have no such freedom about what society they have been born into, so the same logic should not apply. Otherwise it is not a free society, by definition. |
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You have just contradicted your previous statement re
freedom of speech and agreed with me. |
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wonders about the IP rights, can anyone just take up the Anasazi society patterns of behaviour just because they are all dead? |
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xen, I know what you mean and perhaps I have, a bit, but I guess it comes down to context. I don't believe that anything should be absolutely un-sayable but equally you have to be prepared to receive return fire (that's probably not a very good phrase to use in the current context, sorry!). |
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