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To determine who's tracking you by listening to your
through your phone, say something you would never
think about on a regular basis and see if you get popup
ads for it.
I've heard that when you register to TikTok, you have to
give
it access to your microphone and camera. Once you do
that,
theoretically, TikTok can access them at any time and
record
you without you knowing. And that's the same with all
apps
that ask for those permissions, including Instagram and
WhatsApp. I don't know to what extent this is true but I
had
Ticktock on my phone and was talking to somebody
about
how ADHD might not necessarily be a problem but might
be
a
plus in some cases. Next day a Ticktock video popped up
on
my phone without my doing a search saying the
exact same thing. Could be a coincidence.
So to test to see who's listening and selling you stuff if
that
really is happening on a regular basis clearly say "I'm
shopping
for polkadot clown shoes." or something you would never
buy.
When you get an ad for polkadot clown shoes from Bob's
Clown Shoe Emporium you know they're buying spy info
from
whatever app you're running on your phone.
Apple, encryption, backdoors, and the FBI
https://www.cnbc.co...ooters-iphones.html
Relevant reading. [RayfordSteele, Jan 15 2022]
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Funny. My wife and I were talking about this the other day.
She mentioned making French onion soup from scratch and later that day onion soup pots show up in an ad on farcebook. We just laughed at the coincidence.
A couple of days later I was telling her about an idea I have for making a telescopic, periscopic toenail cutter for when we get old and the ad that pops up, I swear to God, is for "the best toenail cutters for the elderly". |
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I think Alexa might be sharing info. |
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hmmmm... I can't decide between two different responses so I guess i'll just have to post them both. |
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Neither deciduous nor coniferous limbs belong in one's renal orifice. |
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I don’t even have Alexa or Siri or TicTok, but this
happens all the time. Mostly from using facebook. |
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I have a second cell phone with no Sim card that I
use for playing a game. The other day it was sitting
on the living room table and out of the clear blue
it said “ I don’t understand what you are saying”.
I think it was listening to the TV! What is scary is I
don’t know what app or what prompted it to say
that. It never talk to me before. |
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//Let's all [mark-for-deletion]// |
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a1 you really haven't a clue. |
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Method for tracking spyware. Jesus dude, do you live
for this MFD bullshit? You've appointed yourself
Halfbakery MFD nazi. |
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This method of spam avoidance would allow you to
track who's tracking you with great specificity. |
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By not understanding "let's all" you can say that about
anything. "Let's all have custard filled speed bumps."
"Let's all have the N-Prize competition for cheapest
way to shoot an object into orbit." |
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I am so proud that in the 16 or so years I've been
coming here I've never once tagged another
halfbaker's idea
with
MFD. |
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Let people have their fun. Shut up with your MFD
bullshit already. |
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//In your case, 2_fries - knowing you are very concerned about privacy// |
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I do believe it is a right not to be spied on yes. If I had known that my spoken words would be broadcast to marketers I would have made more of a fuss when my wife wanted to get the damned thing. Still can't know for sure if that's it or the product placements are coincidence. |
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//It's not an invention, you're not the first
person to think of it// |
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So it’s not a “let’s all”, it’s WKTE, and it’s not an
invention and it’s already been invented. |
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Can we start marking dumb MFDs with MFD? Now
there’s an idea. |
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It's one thing to analyze your on-line preferences for marketing purposes, it's quite another to be listening in on private words spoken between individuals. |
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hmm, if it turns out that our devices are spying on our private lives then maybe invasion of privacy charges should be levelled at those who are responsible. |
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If you're on Facebook, then your data has already
been made available to whomever wants to look at
it whether you gave permission or not. Facebook
can also delete all of it without warning or
explanation as they did to mine and you can't get
it back no matter what you do.
If you really want to know who's listening or not,
try sending a secure email or text message that
describes in convincing detail the plans for a
fictitious terrorist attack, then see what happens.
Good luck to those who think no one listens to
anything, or that encrypted messages can't be read
as if they are plain text. Organisations like MI5/MI6
will descend on you like vampires in the middle of
the night. |
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I've got no beef with websites selling information gleaned from on-line activity. I'm saying that listeing in on private conversations is illegal. Even if they've fine-printed into a contract that the owner of the listening device agrees to allow their own personal spoken information to be sold that signature in no way allows for listening in on conversations of people who did not sign any such contract. |
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//Good luck on your legal actions though. If the class action lawsuit is successful you might get an Amazon gift card// |
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Oh I'm not talking about civil damages I'm talking about jail time for the CEO's who decided to give themselves the right to bug our homes illegally and sell the information for profit. |
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"I" didn't sign anything.
I'm pretty sure that even fine print doesn't include mandatory third party participation in any contractual agreement... hence criminal in nature and if proven in a court of law becomes subject to jail time or fines which, if say guilty of 20,000,000 counts or so, amounts to either several life sentences or one hell of a lot more than gift certificates. |
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Hahhaha Jail time. There is no way the likes of
Zukerberg are ever going to do jail time. In
America especially the ultra rich are always above
the law. They own the law, Trump being the
perfect example. |
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Well see, there's your problem right there. |
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When there's no accountability... then power shifts to non-men.
Real men would never allow such a thing.
"Real" men assume responsibility for their actions without prompting. |
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So just how many real men are left amongst all of the CEO's and talking heads?.. and I don't mean the band. |
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//If you really want to know who's listening or not, try
sending a secure email or text message that
describes in convincing detail the plans for a
fictitious terrorist attack, then see what happens.
Good luck to those who think no one listens to
anything, or that encrypted messages can't be read
as if they are plain text. Organisations like MI5/MI6
will descend on you like vampires in the middle of
the night.// |
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I do recall a recent case where the Feds pleaded
with Apple to provide them with a backdoor
decryption option for
a really legitimate legal case. They declined. The
security is harder than you think to crack. |
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I ain't hiring no lawyers for that shit. I got bigger fish to fry, but somebody should... I believe such things fall within the wheelhouse of the offices of prosecution not the general public. |
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Yes written into varying laws so that it can only be entirely their wheelhouse I believe.
Go figure. |
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Oh my God, it's only in democratic countries that even a snowball's chance in hell existed for 'real' people to count, and we're all on the cusp of that going bye-bye. |
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The pendulum will eventually swing.
I have enjoyed the company of every one of you and will continue to do so for as long as we have together. |
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Until then I will prepare for the worst while hoping for the best. Who knows? Might even get through the shit I see coming... |
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...but fuck that's getting tiring. |
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Can't you non-men asswipes in power get your fucking shit together and do things other than stroke your dicks? |
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Y'know... like "REAL" fucking men? |
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Every single time any decision any of you make which has the possibility of impacting or affecting 'my' life you need to ask yourself; |
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How would I respond if another individual had dared do that to me?
It's simple. |
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What would an insanely wealthy family member do to me if they discovered that I had bugged their private rooms and sold the contents of their private conversations? |
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...y'all might want to start thinking about how decisions you make might affect my life.
Near as I can tell, retribution is individual and origin specific... and ten fold at that. |
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Crazy I know... but whatthefuckyougonnado? |
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Fuck around. Find out. Just sayin. |
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//The security is harder than you think to crack.//
Of course they're not going to admit they have
cracked the code. No one ever does that.
Compromised codes are replaced and you have to
start all over again. Example: the cracking of the
Nazi's Enigma code by the British at Bletchley
during WW2. This remained one of the most closely
guarded secrets of the war. |
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I sympathize with the goal here, but I think [a1] is right
that it's not really an HB idea. |
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Be that as it may, the best legal line of attack would
probably be via the EU's GDPR; if you can prove that a
company doing business in that jurisdiction is in breach of
that regulation, the fines for that could make their eyes
water a bit (I think they automatically scale with the size
of the offending company). Are there any 'bakers there?
We used to have [zeno] in the Netherlands, and maybe
[django] was from Belgium (not sure about that one), and
someone - was it [wagster]? - decamped to the Irish
Republic. Other than that, we might have missed our
chance. |
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The EU regulator has told me that they can do
nothing about Facebook deleting all my data. I'm
not wealthy enough to take Zukerberg to court, so
I just have to accept the loss of the conversations I
exchanged via messenger with 4 now dead friends
among many others. Repeated very polite letters
to Nick Clegg (Facebook's new mouthpiece) are
also ignored. |
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Ah, yes; I think the GDPR is for when they keep information
that you wanted them to discard, not the other way around.
Sorry - that's a different problem. |
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Listen. Until you've read more and understand more
than I have on the math and science of cryptography,
(which is quite a lot thank you due to the nature of
my job) just accept what I'm telling you for a change.
Just for goddamned once. Sorry it doesn't square
with your lazy conspiracy narrative. |
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If it were easier, the SolarWinds hack wouldn't have
been the big news that it was, because there
would've been a more direct hack method. |
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//I sympathize with the goal here, but I think
[a1] is right that it's not really an HB idea.// |
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He's not, it is, but I've changed the title to make it
clearer. This
is
a process or method. Use of particular words to
smoke out and track microphone spying
mechanisms. |
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Somebody else has thought of this fairly recently,
shown the a1's article referring to this idea as
"ingenious" but it's not a "let's all". However in a1's
defense he did drop that and change it to baked
when he saw his first attempt to have me take
down an idea was ludicrous. |
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No, I usually take down ideas that have been baked,
but if it's you doing the MFD I'll never indulge your
weird obsession with
ruining people's fun and I'll leave it up just to piss you
off. |
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And don't get smug, your first MFD was a "let's all" then you
admitted it wasn't a "let's all" but a "known to exist". |
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Go ahead and "quibble" all you want, just not with me. As
I've
said many times before, your interest in communicating
with
me for some reason is not reciprocated. |
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Think of this as a coctail bar where people talk and have
fun, but I'm the guy you keep trying to strike up a
conversation with who keeps throwing his drink in your
face every time you walk across the bar to try to talk to
him. You might want to talk to somebody and find out why
you keep walking over to me and trying to engage. "Hey,
that guy I keep trying to talk to keeps throwing his drink in
my face, I think I'll go over again, and again, and again." |
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Sometimes people don't like each other so they avoid each
other. It's perfectly normal and acceptable. A true
intellectual would just accept this, let it go and move on. |
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Demonstrate how brilliant you are by doing just that. |
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You really need to stop obsessing about me. I assure you I
never think about you. |
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Try it. You'll sleep better at night. |
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//[Mindey] is in the EU// |
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Good point. So there's hope. |
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He did... just not what you think he paid for. |
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Wait a minute, I think you're reading my character's lines...
let's start again from the top... |
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Drew Carey is utterly alien to both, but I could see him
wearing polka dot clown shoes. Maybe it would make his
tenure on TPIR better. |
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