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Often, I've wanted to match a paint that I (or someone else) has
used
in my house. For example, I might want to repaint a place where
I've removed a fixture, to match the surrounding wall; or I might
want to use a paint that has proven particularly effective in a
particular situation. Another
situation is where I've used some
weird paint that can't be overpainted with some other weird paint.
Of course, I try to keep a note of what paint and colour I've used;
but
this system frequently breaks down. And, of course, there are
paint
matching services which claim to match a given colour exactly;
but it
would be better if I could remember the manufacturer, product
and
colour name so I can buy it off-the-shelf and get a better match.
So.
My suggestion is that each paint manufacturer supplies, with each
tin
of paint, a small "Paint Pin". This would be rather like a drawing
pin
with a short, sharp point, with the manufacturer's name, product
type and colour (eg "Dulux Int. Gloss, Sambuca Explosion") printed
or
(better) embossed on it.
If the Pin is just printed, it can be pushed into the wall or wood
surface in some inconspicuous place once the job is finished, to be
searched out and read at a later date. If it were embossed, it
could
be painted over, remaining visible but inconspicuous.
Of course, paint manufacturers change their colours over the
years,
and also paints may fade (so the new paint won't be a perfect
match), but Paint Pins would help in many cases.
Pinhead
http://en.wikipedia...inhead_(Hellraiser)
An alternative way to store your pins. [8th of 7, Jul 04 2010]
Pantone Matching System
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantone
It's not infallible, you can get inbetween shades, and it's better for some applications than others, but it's a place to start. Oh, and I finally figured out what you meant by FFI and TSF [normzone, Jul 04 2010]
European powdercoat reference, brought to my attention by a challenging designer...
http://en.wikipedia...lor_space_system%29
[normzone, Jul 04 2010]
[link]
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I thought this was going to be some cunning way of
applying paint to a surface in a recognisable and
repeatable way in order to authorise an ATM
transaction. |
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I thought so too. Funny how things work out, isnit? |
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//in some inconspicuous place// |
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That will never be found again. |
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Always the top-left corner. Especially on ceilings. |
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Sounds good to me. "Key-ring" version would be just as good. + |
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PMS and RAL references won't suffice? |
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//PMS and RAL references won't suffice?// |
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The might, but I haven't got the FFI what TSF. |
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"Fatal familial insomnia (FFI) is a very rare autosomal dominant inherited prion disease of the brain. It is almost always caused by a mutation to the..." |
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"The Text Services Framework (TSF) , is a COM framework and API in Windows XP and later Windows operating systems that supports advanced text input and text processing" |
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I'm glad to hear you've evaded the first, but it you had the second maybe you could save your color notes in a word file ;-) |
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[normzone] I'm aware of colour standards and colour
matching systems, but they don't solve the problem. I
have a room painted in "Guano Sunset" satin sub-gloss by
Crolux, but I have no memory of this. I've also just
removed a mounted badger head from the wall, and
discovered that the area beneath it was unpainted. |
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I find that Pantone 187A is pretty close, but in fact
Pantone 187A is just a small shade closer to "Pancreas
Surprise" by Dulown than it is to Guano Sunset by Crolux.
And, even if I match the colour, the degree of mattness or
glossitude may differ. |
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How much easier if I can simply find the pin in the top left
corner, next to the euphonium, saying "Crolux Satin Sub-
gloss Guano
Sunset", and then go buy some more. |
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And now at least I have the FFI what FFI stands for, thanks. |
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I recently went through a bunch of color drama with Sherwin Williams making a batch of RAL7030 for my employer at their Los Angeles powder coat plant to save us from a Canadian supplier who decided we were too small to fool with. |
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They got it close but too green, then even with all their color matching equipment and gadgets decided it was close enough and shipped it. I sympathize with you, but even with your pin (good idea, BTW) you'll find that the next guy to mix it will get it different. |
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I think your real problem is that you need a new mounted head - what kind of game is in season where you are right now? |
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//you'll find that the next guy to mix it will get it
different.// |
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The point is NOT to go and get a matching paint mixed.
The idea is to go and buy the same pre-mixed paint from
the same manufacturer that I bought last time. |
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The big manufacturers do, it's true, often advise you to
buy all your paint in one go to ensure consistency. But, by
and large, if I go and buy a tin of Crolux Guano Sunset Satin
Sub-Gloss today, it'll be a pretty good match for the Crolux
Guano Sunset Satin Sub-Gloss that's already on the wall. If
only I have something to remind me that it's Crolux Guano
Sunset Satin Sub-Gloss. |
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Oh, and at the moment I believe partridge and Jehovas
Witnesses are in season. |
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//What, the whole family?//
No, just the really irritating Danny. |
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As in "God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit and - Danny" ? |
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//partridge and Jehovas Witnesses are in season// |
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A mounted partridge head (even the 'family' variant) probably won't come anywhere near covering the space left by the removed badger head, unless you're using a vastly oversized mount, and by the tone of previous annotations I suspect you're aesthetically 'picky' so will probably choose a mount size in keeping with the head size. On that basis your choice becomes limited to Jehova's Witnesses. Good luck with that. |
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The problem is that I've already got one in the centre of that
wall. And if I'm going to have two, they really need to be a
matched pair. |
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No, two will be enough, to be sure. |
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[+] If the pin had an RFID in it, it wouldn't need to be removed from the wall to be read. |
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I can only think of one real downside to this idea... |
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Consider that if the room's paint has faded over time, the new paint, even if it is exactly identical to the room's old paint at the time that the old paint was applied, will be a brighter shade. |
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RFID: I don't have a reader handy, which is why I wanted it
human-readable. |
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Paint fading: yes, I made this point in the final paragraph
of the idea itself. However, I've often used tins of paint
which I've kept, well-sealed, for at least 5 years after they
were first used, to touch up damaged or new areas.
There's a little fading, but it's not usually much. |
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Listen, all I want in life is a little tag somewhere that tells
me what paint I've used. Is this....sob....so very much to
ask.....? |
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Just put the badger back. Can't understand why you'd want to take it down in the first place. |
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//Just put the badger back. Can't understand why you'd want
to take it down in the first place.// |
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Apparently, he was the best badger at the badge-making
factory, and they want him there for their boardroom. |
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If the pin heads were square or hexagonal, you could
cover the entire surface of the wall with them. |
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