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One nation, two laws ...
"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread." - Anatole France | |
For simplicity, assume that all habitable areas of your planet can be neatly delineated into "urban" and "rural".
At the moment, within one nation-state, laws apply equally to all citizens. On first examination, this appears to be fair.
However:
Rural and Urban environments are in fact very
different. Each confers advantages and disadvantages to the dweller.
Some actions and behaviours which are unacceptable in one environment are quite acceptable in another.
A rise in the cost of vehicle fuel disproportionately affects dwellers in rural areas, and their access to public services is much poorer. However, many would cite an improved quality of life as their reasons for accepting such limitations.
In the same way that (for example) speed limits change at the boundary between rural and urban areas, why not recognise that some laws should apply to urban dwellers, but not to the countryside, and vice versa ?
Anti-litigious multiple enclaved microstate
Anti-litigious_20mu...claved_20microstate
by nineteenthly [calum, Aug 19 2011]
The West Lothian Question
http://en.wikipedia...st_Lothian_question
Conceptually, the same problem applies. [DrBob, Aug 19 2011]
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can we have some examples that could apply specifically and non-contextually to the urban/rural individual? Seems like the vast majority of laws are highly contextual and thus enforcement is radically different in urban/rural areas. |
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+ I like it.
[ one example would be- the urban dwellers cannot take a piss in their driveway whilst the country folk can] |
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contextual. The location of the driveway, not the origin of the individual guides enforcement. A rural person cannot pee in an urban driveway, and an urban person can pee in a rural driveway. |
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I need examples of exceptions to this. |
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City: disposal of bodily wastes only through designated facilities.
Country:Going behind the nearest tree or bush is fine. Make sure you don't step in any of the cow/sheep/fox/bear/horse excrement on your way to or from the bush. |
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City: You may not carry an unsecured (uncovered) firearm in a pubic place.
Country:You can carry a loaded gun as long as you use it for lawful purposes. |
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City: You may not wave a half-metre long sharp steel blade around.
Country: Billhooks. |
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City: You may let your dog run free, if you're really that stupid and uncaring. If it craps somewhere, you will be fined.
Country: If your dog chases livestock it can and will be shot. You have no redress. |
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City:You pay a city tax such that good public transport provision makes owning a vehicle mostly unnecessary.
Country: No public transport provision, but lower taxes and cheaper vehicle fuel. |
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City: No outdoor fires.
Country: With due deference to and consideration of prevailing local climatic and environmental conditions, you can burn what you like. |
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Most of the country laws can be filtered into 'nobody's watching or close enough to matter, so who cares and why bother with the law?' |
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Urban laws are usually called 'by-laws', however I see the point that the bylaws in urban area <x> are usually the same as those in urban area <y>. |
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Stating the obvious, the factor seems to be "while in close proximity to others'. Or "don't get caught" in the case of peeing on the driveway: in an urban situation the given is that you will be seen which is the actual crime, whereas in ruralia that you won't. A commune living in the country would probably have house rules against just whipping it out and letting fly.
</blather> |
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It seems that the solution is an organization, perhaps hierarchical, made up of cities. The larger and/or more diverse cities would attempt to gain more followers in the unspokenfors. |
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"Where do you live" could be answered not only by a vague geographic location, ie: country, but by the very local region's adherence to culture: 'Shanghai England' for instance. |
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This is not completely tongue-in-cheek: we aren't talking about a variety of cultures so much as a variety of solutions to population densities. |
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// In the UK, with all your open farmland, dogs chasing livestock may be an issue. In the US, we put fences around our farms to keep the livestock in ...// |
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That's a turning of the tables. |
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Oh, give me a home where the butterflies roam,
Where hedgehogs and badgers play,
Where seldom is heard a discouraging word
And the skies are cloudy all day. |
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so "contextual" then. unless the posted can help us understand better what they are trying to point out I'm going to say baked and widely known to exist. |
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The West Lothian Question scuppers this idea, I think. Why should rural MPs be allowed to vote on laws affecting urban areas & vice versa? |
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Oh, no. The Borg have discovered Zoning. |
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Next, they'll discover Re-Zoning and Imminent Domain. |
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Then, they'll look at each other and say, "This seems oddly familiar..." |
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Basically, the USA is one nation with 50 different sets of
laws, which bear almost identical similarity concerning
major crimes, but vary wildly when it comes to a whole
galaxy of minor details. Actually, it's 54 different
variations, if you count DC and the Territories. |
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Ah, to live in a place where laws rarely apply because
people rarely break them*... |
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*except for the laws that prohibit or restrict things that
don't really hurt in anyone, like home-distilling, growing a
few pot plants in your back yard, or streaking down Main
Street. The police in my state rarely, if ever, give a shit
about the little stuff. |
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//You may not carry an unsecured (uncovered) firearm in a pubic place// |
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<obligatory>Is that an unsecured firearm in your underpants or... ?</obligatory> |
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