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Given the anti-patent nature of this site, and [popbottle's]
recent idea for pushing through patent applications, I
thought
this was relevant. Tesla Motors announced that they are
making all of their technology open-source. As stated in
the
link, they realized
that if one company held the patents on
electric car technology, the market would never be large
enough to justify the infrastructure changes needed for
electric cars. Unsurprisingly, their stock is down today.
http://www.teslamot...tent-are-belong-you
[DIYMatt, Jun 12 2014]
elonging
https://twitter.com.../472579362387009537
[theircompetitor, Jun 12 2014]
tesla
https://www.google....aU-jIFIWkiQLurIDgDQ
stock chart [popbottle, Jun 13 2014]
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A bold move - I like it. Stock drop is not surprising, but it sounds like long term thinking. |
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Electric cars are over a hundred years old. Chances of Tesla inventing anything fundamental about EV s are pretty slim. |
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At about 30,000 dollars a car, chances of Tesla being a mass market auto maker are nil. We may all drive electrics when the oil runs out, but they won't come out of a Tesla factory. (Unless someone buys the the name out of bankruptcy, and slaps it on a real factory.) |
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They are doomed to play Apple to someone else 's Microsoft. |
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Tesla is going to become the #1 US car
manufacturer, because it hires the best engineers
and is run by an engineer. Because of this, Tesla
follows the data to better solutions. Its
competitors are essentially all run by businessmen,
who don't know style or good engineering and so
can't recognize top performance as well as Tesla
can. |
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I will buy a Tesla for my next car even if it means
paying $10,000 more up-front because: 1. costs are
the same in the long run and 2. car salesmen
embody everything I hate and everything that is
wrong with the modern world, and I can't wait for
technology to destroy their lying-based industry. |
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The "all your base" reference in the announcement
title was a nice flourish. |
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" Tesla is going to become the #1 US car manufacturer, because it hires the best engineers and is run by an engineer. Because of this, Tesla follows the data to better solutions. " |
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As a QA guy, having herded the best and the worst of those cats, I can only hope that the attitude goes all the way. It should, given that if it doesn't the consequences would be Hindenbergian. |
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//Given the anti-patent nature of this site// Oh? |
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Everyone's stock was down today. Tesla stock is not
a representation of the company's current, or even
near future value. Tesla stock is a representation of
elonging (see link) -- great for speculation, but
proceed with care. |
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Elonging would be a great new MFD category |
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//Given the anti-patent nature of this site// Did I miss that memo ? |
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//Elonging// heh. Meanwhile there's a dealership down the street from me. |
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What, do you all patent these ideas before you post
them here? There must be some very confused
patent clerks if that's the case. |
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//They are doomed to play Apple to someone else 's
Microsoft.// |
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That's not a bad place to be. Apple has had more
cash than the US government off and on over the last
several years. I could see something similar
happening with Tesla - other manufacturers will take
over the mass market but they will continue to
produce the sought-after, high end cars. Personally, I
would love a Model S and I would have no problem
paying $70,000 for one if I had the money. There is a
surprisingly large market for cars in that price range
and the Tesla is the best one for the money, in my
opinion. |
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You're right, it isn't an eco friendly car. It does give
us transportation without oil though. If you have an
electric car you have options on where you get the
energy - nuclear, hydroelectric, hopefully not coal,
etc. Even if it takes slightly more energy in total you
can get it from renewable sources. And yes, since
most of our electricity is produced by coal
it probably would be worse for the environment if
everybody switched cars right now, but it isn't going
to happen overnight. We need new cars and new
power sources, Tesla is moving at least one of those
in the right direction. |
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There is also the fact that the Tesla is a really nice
car independent of its power source. It's cool
looking, really fast, competitively priced, and shares
many parts with Mercedes. For 99% of the travel
most people do the range will never be a problem
which makes it a good every day driver. |
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I forgot my umbrella on Wednesday. Does that count? |
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// It does give us transportation without oil though. // |
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As does a camel, but for the daily commute it's probably not a good
option. |
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//Given the anti-patent nature of this site// |
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I think it's more “too-lazy-to-patent”. |
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Sounds like IBM all over again, they didn't do too badly, but the strategy never really played out as well for them as they might have hoped. |
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//These are not eco cars yet. Takes more energy to
make the car and short lifespan batteries than they'll
ever use. A normal car's energy expenditure is 50%
before it hits the road. For a Tesla/Prius just add a
ton of battery tech.// |
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I read *Tesla forgot his pants*. |
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