h a l f b a k e r yThe leaning tower of Piezo
add, search, annotate, link, view, overview, recent, by name, random
news, help, about, links, report a problem
browse anonymously,
or get an account
and write.
register,
|
|
|
Please log in.
Before you can vote, you need to register.
Please log in or create an account.
|
Smokers are hooked on nicotine.
Nicotine
is not especially dangerous, and there
are
many products available to deliver it -
gum, patches, snorters etc. But why not
deliver it the way smokers like - in a
smoke?
The no-tar cigarette from BUNGCO
contains flakes of our proprietary starch/
cellulose
mix, soaked in nicotine and
rolled in cigarette paper. The NTCs smell
like a burnt bagel and provide all the
nicotine of a Lucky Strike - but none of
the carcinogenic tar!
The legal folks at BUNGCO are not sure
whether the NTC should be postioned as
a cigarette, with consequent tax, or as a
drug delivery device, with consequent
FDA regulations. Either way, we are
confident we can undersell the
competition.
nicotine, the poison
http://www.nicotinevictims.com/poison.htm
[po, Aug 31 2006]
Material Safety Data Sheet for Nicotine
http://msds.ehs.cor...od/a278/m138800.htm
MAY BE FATAL IF ABSORBED THROUGH SKIN/INHALED/INGESTED. EXPOSURE CAN CAUSE LIVER & KIDNEY DAMAGE/ADVERSE REPRODUCTIVE EFFECTS/DELAYED LUNG INJURY/CARDIOVASCULAR SYSTEM INJURY/RESPIRATORY TRACT IRRITAT ION/DELAYED ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS/NERVOUS SYSTEM INJURY. POSSIBLE CUMULATIVE POISON. [Galbinus_Caeli, Aug 31 2006]
Nicotine may be a cancer promoter
http://www.cancer.o...cer_Development.asp
[ldischler, Aug 31 2006]
Helpful opinions!
http://www.halfbakery.com/user/bungston
[bungston, Apr 30 2007]
[link]
|
| |
I think this rests on a common myth - that cigarettes contain many nasty chemicals, including tar. As I understand, the tar, phenolics, aromatics and other nasties are formed as byproducts of incomplete combustion. I'm not sure that inhaling smoke from smouldering cellulose and starch would be any less harmful. |
|
| |
//Nicotine is not especially dangerous//
There's evidence to suggest that nicotine is the most addictive substance known. |
|
| |
Nicotine is harmful - take the tar out, and you'll still die. Witness all the mouth cancer from chewing tobacco. |
|
| |
And take it in concentrated form, you'll die right away - it's quite poisonous. |
|
| |
Aren't leaves mostly polysaccarides and cellulose anyway? |
|
| |
[Curry, curry, curry]. And you a doctor. It is the compounds in cured tobacco (burnt and unburnt) that cause the cancer, mouth lung and otherwise. Nicorette gum does not cause cancer. Compared to the tar and cured plant compounds, nicotine is mother's milk. The main downside of nicotine is that it causes vasospasm - which can produce a heart attack or gum disease, but which is reversible. |
|
| |
Nicotine is a cancer promoter, I believe. |
|
| |
two friends meet in a pub: "Cigarette?" -
"No ta" |
|
| |
Only works if spoken out loud in an
English accent. |
|
| |
Sorry bungston, I'm a big fan, but this one
is on a hiding to nowhere. |
|
| |
I'm fairly certain that meditation has anticarcinogenic value. Though, maybe that's just because you can't meditate and smoke at the same time. |
|
| |
//...you can't meditate and smoke at the same time.
// |
|
| |
You just aren't trying hard enough. |
|
| |
I was thinking again about this idea. It would be cheaper to make these than conventional cigs, because the tobacco would not need to be cured nor especially flavorful. Green tobacco could be processed for its nicotine direct from the fields. |
|
| |
//You just aren't trying hard enough.// |
|
| |
Do, or do not. There is no tar. |
|
| |
[Bungston], I'm guessing that you don't
smoke and haven't. I'm also wondering
why everyone and his dog feels obliged
to chip in with a helpful opinion about a
drug they don't know much about. This
doesn't seem to happen with more
socially acceptable drugs like cocaine.
But I digress. |
|
| |
There are already perfectly good
systems for delivering nicotine as a
vapour, and they aren't too bad. But
nor are they very popular, because a
cigarette is a lot more complex than
just some "good" nicotine and some
"bad" tar. It's like suggesting that dilute
ethanol in distilled water would make a
good wine substitute. |
|
| |
People are addicted to nicotine (which
does, alone, have some adverse effects
- but far fewer than any other
recreational drug you can name), but
they smoke for many reasons in
addition to the nicotine. There are
complex associations involving the
taste and smell of cigarettes, for
example, which are largely to do with
the "bad" tar. There are also other
psychoactive compounds besides
nicotine - that's why (for example)
cigarettes are pretty effective
antidepressants whereas nicotine alone
is not. |
|
| |
And [Galbinus], while you're up there
amongst the capitals, would you care to
look at the MSD's for, say, ethanol?
Everything kills you, kiddo. |
|
| |
[Max] - 3.8 billion dollars worth of dilute ethanol in distilled water are sold each year. For some people, the wineyness of wine cannot be beat, but for others vodka seems to suffice. |
|
| |
All that you say of cigs are true (though I am not certain about other psychoactive compound claim). You omit the psychological effects of the smoking ritual, the hand, the mouth, the lips, the smoke. The obvious smoking that a person is doing when he or she smokes. All are important, all preserved with the above described invention. |
|
| |
As re helpful opinions about matters I know nothing about, you can find many more at the above linked page. Only 2 from my dog, though. |
|
| |