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I was looking at plastic pirate ships in the
toy aisle, and thinking that I've always
wanted my own pirate ship...I had the
thought that all (or very nearly all)
sailboats these days are made from
extremely boring white smooth fiberglass.
Now, while there's nothing wrong with a
smooth,
white-skinned lassie, (especially
one with a few freckles dotting the map) a
proper ship should at least look hewn
from timber...So, the S.S. Cloudface would
have molded fiberglass hull that looks like
wood: the "Master & Commander" style
ship. I guess below the waterline the
resemblance would fade to black, but a
captain's cabin with a Golden Hind-style
window...that's my idea of a proper ship,
although I suspect most of the
picturesque, labor-intensive rigging would
have to go.
Yarr, me hearties
http://www.thomasscott.net/yarr/talk.html
[moomintroll, Dec 06 2004]
(?) STS Tenacious
http://www.jst.org.....php?pages=page1041
Largest wooden ship built in UK in last 100 years. [oneoffdave, Dec 07 2004]
[link]
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I'd want the square rigged sails to be all torn and full of holes. Also, big dry ice fog generators. |
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Cannons. Don't forget the cannons. |
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I concur with [etherman]. |
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Can you get your face painted yellow? Therefore allowing a break between the raping and pillaging to declare to anyone that's interested that you have scurvy. |
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I'm actually looking out the window of my mates office at a fibre glass version of a clinker built design... painted brown. Ok it's not a caravelle but its trying to be wooden and aint. so in my book... baked. |
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I'll crew, if there are monkeys. |
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Brown painted plastic?! Ew. |
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Apart from that, yay! me hearties. Shame 19th Sept has gone... |
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brings up images of riding in a 1980's Chevy station wagon with fake wood paneled sides. Thar's a boat, if there ever was one. |
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Does it come with a fake sword and plastic eye patch? |
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Argh, no. Make it from wood. Fake wood is just nasty. I wouldn't have it in my furniture, and definitely not in my yacht. |
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Other than that, definitely. Especially the cannon. |
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The problem with wooden ships is that they take a lot more work and money to maintain than fibreglass or steel. While faking the wood out of fibreglass would be a bit cheesy, it would avoid constant calls into dry-dock to re-tar, bring the running costs down massively, and it would look ok from a distance. Aye me hearties! Splice the nylon mainbrace and crack open a keg of Archers Peach Schnapps! |
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Plastic boats are poo. The float but they look shit. |
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Gimme a leaky timber tub any day. Avast behind!! (no offence) |
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If you were going to keep them square-rigged, I suspect that a fibreglass would have serious cost implications as it'd have to be pretty strong to build a ship that size. They make plastic minesweepers but I'm not sure what the upper limit is for the Tupperware(tm) Navy. |
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Just go along the lines of the STS Tenacious and build a modern square rigger out of wood. Her sister ship has a steel hull. |
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Steel is the way forward. Right up until the 1960s there was a Norwegian guy running a fleet of steel-hulled square riggers as a commercial cargo fleet. Plus you can crash it into things and it survives a lot better, which if I'm steering is an important consideration. |
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Yarr, me hearties, load the cannons with silverware! I can't be arsed with the washing up. |
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Hmm... station wagon dressed up like an English Man-of-War. Someone should build it. |
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How 'bout this: Put real wood over the firberglass.
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How about yes! Good call [DF] - looks like wood, but if the wood rots, who cares? This could be baked into an idea of it's own. Oh I forgot, you don't visit the hb any more... |
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Wood placed over fiberglass will have all the bad points of having just wood-- you will still need to keep up the wood in order to have a boat that will sail smoothly and look good. |
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Well, yes. But it won't leak. Look at it in another way - when you build a wooden boat, why not line the hull with a thin layer of fibreglass as a longlasting seal and strengthener. Won't add much weight or thickness, and you don't really build wooden boats for speed anyway. I know purists won't like this, but it seems to me to have some advantages of both materials. |
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