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Much Simplified Air Traffic Controller Warnings

"CRASH CRASH CRASH!"
 
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As a pilot in my younger days, I was extra horrified by the events leading up to the occurrence of the mid air collision over the Potomac the other day. Boring initialisms and vague warnings were calmly droned by air traffic controllers as they watched a helicopter head straight for an airliner.

There need to be two warning levels that are said with two levels of distress in the voice that any human brain will understand "FLIGHT PATH CONVERGENCE! FLIGHT PATH CONVERGENCE! FLIGHT PATH CONVERGENCE!" (or something similar) naming the two aircraft, then if they don't change course YELL "CRASH CRASH CRASH!". And I mean YELL!!!

I barely avoided a mid air collision over beautiful Half Moon bay one sunny afternoon flying a Cessna 172 many years ago. I can tell you, when you're closing head on at over 200 knots you don't have a lot of time to be calmly discussing flight adjustments using initialisms like which plane your about to crash into. That dot quickly turns into an aircraft and you turn or you die.

Luckily we're humans and there's built into language a system illustrating the order of magnitude of the imminent threat. It's called yelling and it has its place, but ONLY if a crash is imminent and as a last resort. You hear 'FLIGHT PATH CONVERGENCE!" or worse, "CRASH!" yelled over the radio you look all around you snap your head around as quick as possible and get ready for a hard bank in the other direction.

I'd propose creating even another level of warning. I know this goes against current protocols to be calm and collected on either end of the transmission between tower and aircraft, but clearly there might be times when calm and collected isn't the right approach.

doctorremulac3, Jan 31 2025

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       This is a very sad event, but lets wait for the inquiry report.   

       Honestly, I'm not sure your proposal would help overall. I believe air traffic controllers are selected specifically for their ability to remain calm under pressure.
While making everyone panic may avert some collisions, I wouldn't be surprised if it also caused more accidents - unrelated vehicles turning onto collision course, flying into terrain etc.
Loris, Jan 31 2025
  

       I just know as a former recreational pilot, if I'm headed for a crash I want the same emphasis from air traffic control as I'd get from a warning system saying "PULL UP! PULL UP! PULL UP!" if I'm heading for a mountain hidden by clouds.   

       Anyway, I hope whatever we can learn from this tragedy is applied to make sure it never happens again.
doctorremulac3, Jan 31 2025
  

       How about a brevity for "every plane above 100 feet immediately change course arbitrarily", to be used only by ATC in the case of imminent collision
Voice, Jan 31 2025
  

       Kind of like musical chairs?   

       Somebody could probably do the maths on if that would work, that is, how many crashes would it add per crashes avoided.
doctorremulac3, Feb 02 2025
  
      
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