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Online education is the wave of the future but it has a
problem. It's going against centuries old institutions that
have a vested interest in continuing to keep the money
rolling in to their antiquated system of corralling
students into vast building complexes with ornate
structures, columns
and well maintained and landscaped
grounds that indicate wealth, status and prestige.
This is all nonsense. An education can be supplied by a
computer more effectively than by a human.
So to battle the image problem online degrees have,
create the pinnacle of education, the hardest to earn
degree one that can be only received online for free.
Design it so that only the top 10% of the most brilliant of
the brilliant will be able to earn it. 90% of students from
the top Universities in the world will fail.
Turn the "joke" of an online degree into something that
anybody would be proud to put on their resumé. An
indication that the person holding this is the top of the
top.
Then use this new found respect for a high tech solution
to the high cost and lack of availability of higher
education into a low cost education for all. Have that
same institution offer other degrees with more
achievability but great applicability in the real world.
We can still have these glorified day care centers, but
not at the expense of modern solutions and tools to get
the job done being marginalized.
"To Serve Man"
https://en.wikipedi...g/wiki/To_Serve_Man
" ... he has translated the first paragraph of the book and has determined that it is not a treatise on serving humanity, but a cookbook." [8th of 7, Oct 24 2018]
Failing - A very difficult piece for solo string bass - YouTube
https://www.youtube...watch?v=9P8C6-XqaNs
Level of difficulty for its own sake [LoriZ, Nov 02 2018]
Puny-versity
[xenzag, Mar 05 2024]
A list of bad predictions about technology.
https://www.inc.com...0Times%20in%201955.
Check out who said nuclear power and splitting the atom would never be possible. [doctorremulac3, Mar 05 2024]
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I disagree with the basic premise here. Sorry.
Learning is not primarily about absorption of
information. You know this. |
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I'm with [Rayfo]. Oxford and Cambridge do indeed have
ornate structures, columns and well maintained grounds,
but that's largely because they've been in the teaching
business since about 1250. Over the last 800 years, they've
gotten pretty good at what they do. |
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If I'm looking for an employee, I'll prefer someone from
Oxbridge over someone from another university, all things
being equal, for the simple reason that Oxbridge turns out a
higher quality product. I would not call either of them
"glorified day care centers" (or even "centres"), at least not
for the sciences. The arts obviously require no actual work,
but in that case being part of a university is the actual
learning experience. |
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//I disagree with the basic premise here.// |
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That education should be as excellent and cheap and
widely available as
possible and that technology will someday achieve that? |
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The idea is to have the offering of a degree that you can
earn on line. I'm going to assume there's no problem with
that. |
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The first premise is that, as witnessed by the two posts,
online degrees get no love. OK, fine. |
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The second premise is that there CAN be a course, and
test, a verification of the brightest of the brightest using
only automated interactive tools. Nobody can say you
can't learn to build, say, a nuclear power plant without
having some guy in a sweater up there waving his arms
around and trying to make the girls in his class giggle. You
can learn MOST subjects from an automated system. |
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So the third premise is that you can make this course and
test very very very very hard. Harder than anything
offered in any respectable classic institutions. Passing this
test could be impossible for 99.99999% of the population,
but some would be able to pass. |
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It might be a degree on general knowledge. Maybe you
would have to be able to design vaccines, design a
nuclear power plant and design a computer from scratch.
Who knows? It would just be very very hard, such that
those who took the challenge would have something to be
proud of. |
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This is not to replace classic education NOW, it's to make
a dent in the image of new, high tech education tools
being
somehow flawed and inferior. |
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As far as a feature on a resume, the person having this
under their belt would certainly not have only this,
because they're one in a million in terms of intellectual
capacity. I'm sure they'd be dripping with PHDs, from the
grandest institutions on Earth. This is just something
they'd be able to say "And in addition to being number
one in my class at Harvard and MIT, I passed the...
Megatron. |
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Yea, Megatron. That's as good a name as any. |
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That a computer can supply an education more
effectively than a human. |
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We do have MIT Opencourseware and Stanford's
equivalent and probably some others, if that's what
is meant. |
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Online remote learning is fine for passing on rote
information and some basic job prerequisites. It has
little influence in teaching people how
to think in my experience. It is a poor substitute for
collaborative experience, experimental investigation,
or such. |
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Can one person in a million pass the final test? |
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Personally, my experience of Oxbridge graduates is that
they tend to have been taught a certain kind of arrogance
which is lacking in those who have learnt their skills
elsewhere. |
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They tend to be excellent at the things that they're
excellent at, while also being absolutely abysmal at
working with anyone who didn't graduate from an
institution which they consider to be "worthy" of them. |
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Hiring an Oxbridge graduate may well prove to be a good
investment in the long term, but in practice, they'll need
a good sound battering with the real world before they
start to offer a return on that investment. |
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Many will never reach this point. |
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You make my point for me. There is a downside to
elitism. Not high IQ and high achievement, that's great,
but elitism can have its drawbacks. |
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There may be a day where somebody from a small town,
perhaps a farmer's son, passes this test. Now I've got my
choice of hiring this working class lad
who can blow the doors off of anybody on an intellectual
level. Ooooor, I can hire somebody with lots of degrees
that cost
lots of money from lots of snooty institutions. |
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Keep in mind, if you can pass this, you can sail through
any intellectual challenge the world has to offer. It would
be designed so that would be the case. This person might
even be "GASP!" poor! |
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If it's a choice between Cornelius P Doodlebottom The
Third or Tom from Kansas who passed the Megatron, guess
who I'm hiring. |
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Just have to say, this was inspired by a hero of mine who
drove tractors until his school IQ tested him and sent a
letter saying he
needs to go to college. He threw the letter aside but his
dad found it and demanded he go. He earned his PHD in
electrical engineering in his teens from Berkley, where he
would be a professor in his 20s, got rich inventing a fire
sensing system, was a designer on the Apollo guidance
computer and then settled into designing hydrogen bombs
with Edwin Teller in his later years. He also wrote a best
seller on picking up chicks. |
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This is kind of inspired by him. Was he the ONLY person
from a humble background who was an incredible genius?
How cool would it be for this silver ring to be out there? If
only to inspire. Maybe only a few people would pass a
year. It would make the news, like people winning the
lottery, but unlike the lottery, this would be awesome and
good. |
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You misunderstand how Oxbridge and the like
works. If you think they just get snooty well-to-do
Yale-mongers, then you're mistaken. The talent
identification system we have in this country is far,
far, far from adequate, but it does exist. |
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I am a dirt farmer's son, first generation graduate.
I went on scholarships, loans, and grants to the
hardest school in a 3-state radius. Where do I fit in
your scheme? |
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the value of a prestigious institution (over and above the
skills acquired) is clearly in the prestige that is granted
onto their graduates, which does not, in most cases,
invalidate the effort said graduates made to attend and
graduate from them. |
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As [Ray] points out online classes are available from many
if not all of these schools. |
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If would be funny if the methods to achieve diversity
were instead used against Ivy League schools. Like if VCs
or Wall St. Quant Desks had to hire Ivy League graduates
at the rates that the general population gains access to
these schools. For some reason this idea has never
entered the mind of the academics that vie for diversity
in all other fields. |
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I like this and I don't like this at the same time but for different reasons.
I like it because as you say it offers a silver ring that doesn't currently exist but discourages uneducated (aka) poor folks from qualifying from attaining it since they were too poor to get the basics in the first place.
It should be based on aptitudes I think.
Unlike IQ tests, aptitude tests are centered around attributes rather than memorized responses and tell far more about an individual than rote recall of previously learned and then taught material. In my opinion this is the whole problem with education today, it's as if it's assumed that there is nothing left to discover or something so rote memorization is the only skill filtered for. |
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( on a side note I scored in the high nineties on two of the aptitude tests they made us take in grade eight or so, spatial relations and mechanical reasoning... go figure... do you think they made any use of those tests? not likely) |
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The other problem is that it creates its own class of elitism thereby corrupting the very same unfortunate people you want to elevate. |
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It's a pretty tight wire... |
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//discourages uneducated (aka) poor folks from
qualifying from attaining it since they were too poor
to get the basics in the first place.// |
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And you could start it at a level of only knowing how
to read. It would walk you through all the stuff you'd
have to know to pass a final exam that one in a
million could pass. |
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The fact that the finals were un-passible by the vast,
vast majority of the folks from Oxford, Harvard,
Stanford would be the prestige part. |
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This doesn't necessarily shut out academics, they
would take part in its creation. |
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You could die saying "I was a professor at Yale." or "I
was one of the professors who created Megatron. The
ultimate education machine. Educated millions, but
conquored by only a few hundred." |
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The problem is, I disagree with the notion that an online,
automated course can give you as good an education as a
face-to-face course. |
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OK, I did Natural Sciences, specialising in biochemistry.
That's a largely "non-physical" subject that should be ideal
for online learning. But most of what I learned (in terms of
utility) was not biochemistry per se but rather how to be a
biochemist (actually a molecular biologist). I learned facts,
but more importantly I learned how to find things out, I
learned what motivated good scientists, I learned how they
thought. I learned the shortcuts and idiosyncrasies of
various scientists. I wouldn't have got that from an online
course. |
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Of course, there were also lots of practical classes, and
what I got from them was not the simple, literal steps (add
A to B, mix, place on ice...) but the actual way you do
things. Not learnable online, really. |
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And, while I was doing all this, I was also having the
experience of mixing with people I wouldn't normally have
mixed with, and dealing with things I wouldn't normally
have dealt with. |
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So, how much of what I _actually_ learned would have been
covered by a good online course? Maybe 30%, maybe even
50%, but not more than that. |
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The barriers here that would still prevent the poor
from an equal footing are the acquisition of the
hardware, a reliable internet connection, and time to
sink. The technology is overcome able with a good
library effort. Getting them in the door to the library
is the hard part as the time is sunk into less abstract
and more immediate needs and bad choices. |
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I'd second [Rayfo]'s comments about time - when you're
actually _at_ university, you are there to study (at least in
the sciences). You have, or should have, no other calls on
your time. Students here generally don't take side-jobs
(though this may be on the increase - I don't know), and
until fairly recently it was unusual even to take a job in the
long summer vacation, which is meant to be a time for
reflection and consolidation. Being out in the real world
makes it very, very much harder to actually focus intently
on the subject. |
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I also forgot to mention the role of other students in
learning. At Cambridge, it was other students who set the
height of the bar from week to week. Everyone wanted to
be best, and the driving factor was how hard everyone else
was working. There was also collaboration between
students, particularly at tutorials (which involve a handful
of students discussing things with the lecturer and between
themselves): ideas would get bounced around and argued
over, which was to everyone's benefit. Again, you don't get
that outside of a physical
university. |
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The emphasis on the comments is countering the
contention that online education will replace the
sleepover camp model which I didn't make. I'm
sure those will survive just for the architecture
and kids wanting to be around other kids. When I
originally said "wave of the future" I mean an
underused tool will be more utilized as it becomes
more sophisticated, not that buildings that look
like palaces won't be a popular place to go to for
young people to get a degree. |
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But I should clarify my terms, I'm talking about AI
based education, so if we're talking AI vs human,
yes, the humans may have some advantages NOW,
but so does the AI.I also contend that at some
point there will be no discernible difference
between your assigned AI teacher and a human.
They'll know you better than anybody else, they'll
care about you more than anybody else, or be
programmed to appear to. They'll be able to be
called at 3:00 and study with you for 6 hours
straight should you require it. |
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As for the human interaction and architectural
part? I could see a grand, glorious palatial AI based
series of palaces, castles and gardens to get your
education and interact with other students. They
just carry their individual AI tutors with them. |
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Teaching is a data based vocation. The way data is
accessed is changing. It used to be dispensed by a
guy on a rock wearing a robe or handing out
scrolls. That model has been expended into the
college system. Fine, but we're entering time
when, for the purposes of education, saying an
educator has to have a pulse for some reason is
going to be a bit hard to justify. |
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Max, I know this could be taken as a hit on your
profession but it's not. A best friend of mine is a
professor and it's a noble profession. You guys will
work WITH the coming future mega artificial
intelligence, not against it. Will some jobs be lost?
I guess, technology does that, but we always land
on our feet such that we're all better off. |
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So to wrap up, this isn't about replacing teachers
NOW, just about lending some credibility to the
idea of an online education by making this
particular one almost impossible to achieve.
Currently, no Rhodes scholar would ever waste
their time getting an online degree. With this, they
might not attempt it simply because it's too hard.
That's a respectable degree. And it's free. This
helps enhance the brand of online, or AI based
education. |
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Replacing teachers with robots isn't the main point
here and as far as college campuses, the idea of a
community with lots of nice buildings for young
people to first leave the home, that's probably a
good thing. |
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Hey, my daughter is going to college, I'm already
putting the money aside, and it ain't cheap, so
clearly I'm a believer. I had to tell her that joining
the military like her brother is off the table. Not
going through that nightmare again. It turned out
well for our family, he's a well employed police
officer now, but it didn't turn out well for
thousands of other families and we've done our
time. |
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The military needs to be replaced by robots too
but that's a discussion for a different time. |
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By the way, just Googled "Human being" and in the
description that popped up, the first feature listed
was "Speed: 28 miles per hour (maximum)". |
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Just thought that was sort of an odd feature to list
first. Perhaps this was created by AI and this is
how it
sees us. "Hello Doctorremulac3, I see you have a
top
speed of 19 miles per hour. How are you doing
today
and what can I do for you?" "Umm, I was wanting to
look up an old friend from the old neighborhood,
Tom Smith." "Tom Smith has a top speed of zero
miles per hour. He died of cancer in 2012. Is there
anything else I can do for you? Would you like some
tips on increasing your top speed?" "Uhh, no. I'm
good, thanks." |
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// sort of an odd feature to list first // |
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Not if the target audience is a carnivorous predator who likes their prey to be plump, slow moving, lacking claws, and having only small and fairly blunt teeth. |
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// little influence in teaching people how to think // |
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"Teaching people how to think" is more an exercise in encouraging innate ability than anything else. Further, that ability manifests itself in many diverse ways, leading to the phrase "Stupid, in the way that only very, very clever people can be stupid". |
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// sort of an odd feature to list first // |
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//Not if the target audience is a carnivorous
predator who likes their prey to be plump, slow
moving, lacking claws, and having only small and
fairly blunt teeth.// |
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Kind of my point. What's next? |
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Scientific name: Homo sapiens. |
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Flavor on the "Tastes like chicken scale": 3.4. |
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Preferred preparation: Basted in a light Andromeda
sauce. |
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// Flavor on the "Tastes like chicken scale": 3.4. // |
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The correct reply to "What does Panda taste like ?" is of course "Very similar to swan" ... |
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No, because swan can be legally eaten by certain Oxbridge
colleges. See, that's something you wouldn't get from an
online degree. |
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Do the benefits ever end ? |
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OK, see addendum to the idea. |
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I have a science degree (computer science!) and an arts degree (law!),
both undergraduate. I also have direct experience working with graduates
from across the higher education spectrum from technical college to
Oxbridge and this makes me by far the best qualified to flap my
gums on the subject of education, the benefits thereof, and whether an
electronically delivered education is likely now - or ever - to be seen as
having equivalent value to the classically meatspace variant. So, without
further preamble or indeed ado:
1. Science degrees are much easier than arts degrees (based on a sample
size of me);
2. Oxbridge is a badge that says you were really rather clever and / or
hard working when you were in secondary school but means fuck all in
terms of how good a lawyer you make (based on direct personal
experience of lawyers both as colleagues and foes, though I will grant that
one of the best lawyers I have known did engineering at Ox and then law
at Bridge (or other way around));
3. Oxbridge means you are almost definitely called Ollie, Jonny, or
Sophie;
4. //Teaching is a data based vocation.// is wrong. Teaching involves the
transmission of data but the vocation is the transmission, not the data
itself; and
5. The proposed idea - make an online course really hard so it is very
prestigious and therefore ultimately seen as better than Ivy League /
Oxbridge / Imperial Universities / whatever - presupposes that just
because something is hard to achieve it is seen as having value. Plenty of
things - even academic things - are hard and have no value (e.g. spelling
bees, law degrees, eating trees). |
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Swan, as in swanning about like toffee nosed twits? |
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Cal, let me put it this way. I'll get more specific: |
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To earn this degree, you must past a test that
includes a review by experts in the fields
associated with the subjects, including a hearing
like review with questions from experts. |
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1- Be able to design a nuclear power plant from
the ground up. Everything down to the coke
machines in the lobby. Every piece, every wire,
every bit. |
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2- Be able to build a space vehicle that can land on
the moon and return to Earth. |
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3- Be able to build a computer starting with basic
raw materials mined from the Earth. |
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4- Perform 3 passible brain operations. (On a
cadaver of course.) |
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Once you can do these five things, you get the
degree. Now if somebody doesn't look at this
degree in awe, who cares? Yes, somebody can say
"Yes, but the professors at MIT gave me this!"
(Holding up a nice looking diploma) but it'll be
like, "Ooooh kay. Great frame. But it's nothing near
the Megatron." |
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The general mood is that this is attacking current
education methods, which I guess it does, but it's
not a replacement, simply an adjunct. |
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Yes but the issue is twofold (1) the credibility of the degree awarding institution and (2) the fact that the outcomes are all examination based, which goes to point 1 and the real benefits of oxbridge and the like. |
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Yes, it would have to be real people with real
expertise doing the exam. It couldn't be a series of
stuffed animals or tropical fish. Then the credibility
would be an issue. |
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Actually, if it were an arts or humanities degree, I suspect a
stuffed fish would at least get a 2:2 |
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// Perform 3 passible brain operations. (On a cadaver of course.) // |
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A cadaver before or after the brain operations ? |
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Yeah, if your AI can pay for the upkeep of my family while I wade into all of that stuff from scratch you got a deal. |
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Otherwise it's just another rich-mans' kids game. |
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...or would this one-in-a-million testing thing happen all through life? See because otherwise you got kids just hitting the starting line in their thirties and forties... and then ain't nobody got time for that shit. |
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I like the idea of a 99 percentile university of universities to advance the humanity out from our marble's problems. Sadly, the people wanted are 'uniquely' intelligent and probably scattered throughout global culture which would make it impossible to collect them into a boxed consensus. |
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//suspect a stuffed fish would at least get a 2:2//
One of the smartest aquatic creatures that ever
lived created a giant software industry and named
it after themselves, but they died young and in no
time at all the name was modified from the
original Mackerel Media to that of Macromedia.
This happened because the ever resentful and
always humourless, po-faced scientific community
couldn't admit they were outsmarted by a
saltwater fish. |
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Am reminded of the line in the movie "Thirteen Days": |
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"How do you get to be head of the KGB [Soviet Intelligence] in the U.S.? You know someone." |
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The greatest drawback of nerddom is that we often can't see that politics plays a major role in every decision. Having known someone who got into Harvard Medical School using contacts, I still can't quite conceive how widespread it is. |
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BTW, almost no one fails out of Harvard, and the average time to graduate the undergrad program used to be something like 5 years. |
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Maybe this should be changed to "Almost Impossible
To Achieve Online Degree To Increase Prestige Of An
Online Education For Disadvantaged Students" |
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That was the original goal. My distain for Harvard in
particular might have taken me off my message. |
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// almost no one fails out of Harvard // |
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Harvard ... bequeathed ... £780 ... perhaps more importantly he also gave his scholar's library ... In gratitude, it was ... ordered "that the Colledge ... shalbee called Harvard Colledge." [sic] |
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"Harvard College remains the most spectacularly successful investment in posterity ever made by a minor cleric". |
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This idea was posted pre bone storm days and was mixed, but I think it should be put out there again in keeping with the subject of student debt being discussed. |
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//An education can be supplied by a computer more effectively than by a human.//As an educator I 100% disagree with this statement. There is no substitute for the collaborative interaction of people in a space esp when under the direction of a responsive educator. Education is more than a memory test. I’d like to see someone learning how to swim by watching a computer and never getting in the water. |
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also for total opposite see idea in link for Puny-versity |
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I think this is a very interesting idea and I agree with what everyone has said about it both positive and negative. |
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Okay, I'll address the human interaction aspect because that's a good point. |
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You would be interacting with people, people who are automatically matched to you by metrics of ability, drive and skill. |
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I'm adding that rather than a lonely interaction with a soulless computer, this is a party. It would be designed to have ten, no, one hundred times the human interaction of an expensive palatial building complex based education. You'd have solitary study periods and web based meetings with humans, and the appropriate balance of both would be guaged, evaluated and updated constantly. |
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And educators wouldn't be out of a job necessarily, somebody needs to create these programs. |
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See how this would work? Somebody would add a commentary about the program and that would be considered. I just changed this from a lonely human / robot interaction to a party on the beach with hundreds of new friends. |
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As an example, the curriculum would include "Today we're studying particle mechanics at the beach. The weather is perfect and you can have lunch at that hot dog stand you like on the pier. It's open today. You'll be studying with 12 other people, they are..." |
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Your AI counselor by the way, is available 24/7. You'll get messages like "You did great on the last test, at the rate of going you might be able to get ready for the next one with 70 hours of study. The weather's nice so might want to go to the park for some of it. Maybe do 3 hours, take a 1 hour hike then do another two for the upcoming weeks? We can mix the physical with the mental activity. Let's get those stress levels down eh? Your friend Bob is studying for the test as well, he asked if you want to schedule some co-study sessions at the park as well. Should I schedule them?" |
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//automatically matched to you by metrics of ability, drive and skill.// I teach groups of mixed abilities where there is no such thing as "matching". There are the physically less able; the neuro-diverse; the socially awkward; hyper energetic; super confident etc. The synergy of these miss-matches results in inventive outcomes of the highest order of achievement. We don't do anything predictable or pre-programmed. We challenge the prescribed and the predictable. We interact and are agile. No computers can do what people can do in a studio/workshop environment. We have a lot of fun are are totally unpredictable. |
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//No computers can do what people can do in a studio/workshop environment.// |
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With all respect to your profession, I'm reminded of this quote: "Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible." -- Lord Kelvin, British mathematician and physicist, president of the British Royal Society, 1895. Or perhaps more appropriate: "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." - Ken Olsen (1977) |
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See link for other predictions. And check out who said "There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will." How could anybody be so dumb? |
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But xen, I'll let you put up the link about tech predictions that DIDN'T come true. There's obviously plenty of those too. |
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Actually [doc] this human addition is what switches the idea from solitary basement dystopia into a world-transforming mass movement. |
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Instead of a single pass/fail metric, have percentage points. So your average local council HR secretarial assistant could take the Megatron courses and come out with a grade of, say 3%, which would be a badge of honour. An average Oxford biochemist could get 57% perhaps. The badge or certificate would say "I failed the MEGATRON at 57%" |
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Because anyone could sign up and do the free course, and because it would be so amazing, there would be local groups. All the dull admin of handling sign up, streaming / mixing ([xen]'s point is important to have random / serenipitous cross-ability and cross-personality mixing). |
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So the app would check your schedule to see your availability and would then timetable you a local meeting - perhaps at the pub at the end of the road, perhaps in a park, or a field, or a beach, or on a service bus to the next town. Your classmates would be waiting there for you, and so would your tutor (because millions of tutors would also sign up, since they would get teaching qualification credits for acting as tutors). You would get to know your class, bounce ideas, and learn faster. |
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Poc, you're hired. I'm handing this idea over to you. I can pay you... umm... I'll bun your next idea. |
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This would be exactly as you described, a sort of... controlled and managed open source system but most importantly, dynamic and ever evolving as necessary. |
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I think teachers and professors, rather than being harmed by this, would be able to put on their resume that they were part of creating this curriculum, which again, would be constantly changing as the world and technology changed. |
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And absolutely, failing at a high level would be a badge of honor. "Yes, I'm not the top .001% of the smartest people on Earth, but I am in the top .01%." |
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And did I mention it's free to all? Server space in data centers and connectivity which would only be a few tens of millions of dollars a year (cheap for what you'd be getting) would be paid for by donations from the rich who like the idea of educating the world. I don't think there'd be any shortage of funding for that. |
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Governments might do a deal that "Hey, allocate 5% of your connectivity physical layer stuff to the World Education Bot and you can knock off 10% of your taxes." |
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The law probably wouldn't start with "Hey," though. |
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I think that if all laws started with "Hey", a lot more people would sign up to do law degrees and become lawyers, and the law would be a lot more fun and interesting. |
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It might interest you, [dr3], that my late father had a half-baked idea of his own about universities - namely, that they should be dissolved, in somewhat the same way that the monasteries of England were dissolved in the C16th. He'd been an undergraduate at Cambridge in the 1950s, and a lecturer at a business school in the 1990s, and felt that higher education had lost track of what it was for, to the extent that, rather than try to reform it, it might be easier just to start again. |
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[pert] that is interesting; when I was at University I kept thinking it was "ripe for reformation" like the medieval church. |
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Your dad sounds awesome pert. I think we all agree education is good, but good institutions can be taken over by people with bad intentions. In fact, any powerful institution bears the vulnerability of being taken over by bad guys attracted to that power base. And what more powerful force is there than the minds of the next generation? |
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So you have a good person and a bad person vying for a position of power, who’s gonna win? The person with no morals willing to do anything or the good guy restrained by moral guidelines? |
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But that’s gonna be the case with any powerful institution. You create a power base the power hungry are going to be attracted to it. |
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Anyway, I'm not saying get rid of horses and expensive palatial campuses, I'm just saying lets put the effort of getting anywhere into cars and basically free AI education. |
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I say "basically free" because the physical layer of the internet isn't free, the "cloud" isn't actually a cloud, data centers use massive amounts of electricity but still that's easier and cheaper than city sized campuses. And again, we'll still have social camp baby sitting centers to get rich kids out of the house, but poor kids can have access to free education without having to enslave people with higher taxes. Poor kids will just have to learn without the frat party, vomitorium booze-fests. |
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