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Nine men vs nine robots.
This is the perfect game to match man vs machine. No
physical contact that would give machines the obvious
edge, just tracking systems and ball hitting and
launching
systems.
No wheels on these robots so they'd have to run the
bases
just like us.
Catching
and throwing would be done with hands and
arms, no funnels and launch tubes.
I'm not sure if the technology is sufficiently advanced
right
now for a robot team to win against a human team but
I'm
very sure we have the technology to at least field a
team that could make a go of it.
The day they win would be a historical moment, just like
when a computer first beat a human chess master for
the
first time.
Here's the current state of the art.
https://www.youtube...watch?v=DgrL21We3W0
Batting... [doctorremulac3, Dec 04 2016]
And here it is running the bases.
https://www.youtube...watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY
[doctorremulac3, Dec 04 2016]
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'Computer Casey at the Bat.' |
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Surprised that the Japanese haven't tried this yet. |
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Also, the machines should be made of flesh. |
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I don't know much about the ins-and-outs of baseball, but the game would go something like this: |
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(Robots open at bat)
Home-run
Home-run
Home-run
Home-run
... |
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(Humans up to bat)
Strike
Strike
Strike
Strike
... |
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There's no way a human would be a match for a digital tracking system, the speed and power of pneumatic/hydraulic/electric actuators, etc.
There may be some decent "man vs. machine" contests, but baseball isn't one of them. If it's physical, the machines have us beat. |
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[marked-for-deletion] Gratuitous cruelty. |
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Because of Asimov's Third Law, robots aren't permitted to
destroy themselves. |
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Forcing a reasoning, intelligent entity to play baseball is just sick. |
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Also, the robots should have hair. |
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Nice links. I see we have a ways to go. |
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I completely agree with [neutrinos shadow] that
eventually once the systems are perfected there could be
batting robots that never miss a ball in the strike zone
and pitching robots that can throw a ball faster enough
that unless the human correctly guesses where the ball
will end up, there will be no chance to hit it. But once
we get to that point, the sport of robot-baseball is dead
anyway. Just like computer chess. When wass the last
time that computer chess made the headlines. It's been
done, so few people care anymore. |
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It seems to me that baseball is not the ideal first sport
for this. There are a lot of unrelated skills that need to
be advanced separately: batting, pitching running,
sliding, catching, strategy, etc. |
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Tennis comes to mind as a sport with plenty of action, a
good deal of subtlety of motion, but not nearly the
complexity. Also it wouldn't required such a large
research facility. |
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Probably for any robot sports against humans, there will
need to be some physical strength limitations
implemented. Otherwise the robot will simply win by
hitting the ball harder and moving faster than any human
ever could. A simple rule could be made to limit the
robots to the middle 3rd of all professionals in the sport
in terms of height, weight, reach, strength, etc. |
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Actually, maybe that's the problem with computer chess.
The computers can always win now because of the brute
force calculation capabilities of a computer.
Unfortunately with that, it's extremely difficult to judge
what a fair handicap would be |
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Yes, as you say, this would be a sport for a period of years
until robots became unbeatable. Right now the problem
isn't that they're unbeatable, it's that they'd be so bad
they'd be unwatchable. It's the period between when we
can field a somewhat passable robot team and when we
perfect them that would be entertaining. . |
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Could be a great way to not only try new approaches to
humanoid robot function engineering, but you might also
get a little bit of funding out of it. I'd certainly watch a
humans vs robots baseball game. |
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When the robots get too good, maybe we start augmenting
with powered exo-suits. |
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It would be more exciting with apes I think. They are so strong and they must be coordinated to be up in trees. Could a chimp bat? |
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I don't know but I absolutely love the idea of simian / human
sports. |
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Not sure which sport would be adaptable for that. |
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Think I'll post that idea, (I'll give you full credit) just to see
what people can come up with. |
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