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There actually are circumstances in which if human flesh is
eaten,
it is not a crime (first link). Outside of such emergencies,
though, the practice is strongly frowned-upon. That's partly
because it is typically associated with killing someone, and
THAT
is much-more frowned-upon.
Well,
what if no-one got killed? Natural deaths do happen, and
the body must be disposed-of, one way or another. But now
another significant objection arises. Consider that we can eat
beef rare, but we need to eat pork well-cooked. That's because
humans and cattle have few diseases in common, while humans
and pigs share quite a few diseases. If just about any disease
some human has is something you could catch, you might decide
to be VERY wary of eating human flesh!
But now see the second link. In an appropriately sterile
environment cells can be protected from diseases, and can
multiply to yield many identical cells. In the future such cells-
as-
food will be offered, that originated from all the usual
candidates, like chickens, fish, lobster, sheep, and so on.
We can be very sure other and less-common types of cells
will
become available, too, simply because the animals don't need to
be raised! Only a few cells from one of them (available from a
zoo, right?) need to be raised.
So be on the lookout for cultured bald eagle cells, dolphin cells,
seal cells, panda cells, snow leopard cells, and so on.
Is there any LOGICAL reason cultured human cells shouldn't be
on
the menu, too?
Emergency
https://en.wikipedi...des_flight_disaster
As mentioned in the main text. [Vernon, Dec 31 2015]
Lab-grown meat
http://news.nationa...r-eat-meat-science/
This will become a big business. Who needs thousands of square miles of ranch land, when meat can be grown in factories in cities? [Vernon, Dec 31 2015]
Vegetarian Black Pudding
Vegetarian_20Black_20Pudding
[calum, Dec 31 2015]
Non-vegetarian cannibal black pudding
Black_20Pudding_20Making_20Ballet_20Shoes
[calum, Dec 31 2015]
The Food Of The Gods
https://en.wikipedi..._Gods_(short_story)
No matter how clever you are, Arthur C. Clarke was there before you ... [8th of 7, Dec 31 2015]
A Modest Proposal
http://en.wikipedia...i/A_modest_proposal
An old chestnut [8th of 7, Jan 02 2016]
Monty Python's 'Funeral Arrangements'
https://www.youtube...watch?v=Ce0UEb05DXI
Burn 'er, bury 'er or dump 'er. [DrBob, Jan 02 2016]
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Haha you have baited your troll trap with the human cannibalism idea again. |
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Logical: Food isn't repulsive. Human flesh is repulsive. Therefore HF not food. |
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Your mere CLAIM that human flesh is repulsive is not a
thing
of "logic". Indeed, some human flesh is often
considered quite
attractive by various humans (manly pectoral and
abdominal muscles,
womanly curves). |
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Also, I don't recall seeing this Idea, regarding lab-
cultured
human cells, anywhere else before, so what do you
mean
by "again"? |
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I meant 'a gain' a benefit for the website. Logic is lots of things. Logic is lots of things but one of the useful things for logic is to make good decisions. Start at a bad outcome such as a greater incidence of people desiring to eat human flesh, and the cultural referent of acceptable flesh eating and the relationship between such a referent and precedent setting in rational behavior. If you know that setting a precedent in an amoral way may have the outcome of immoral actions that may use that justification, it is logical to say precedent is used to justify rational action, human flesh will be consumed with rational justification in reference to the original precedent even if it is detached like eating an abandoned baby. |
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I don't think legality is the primary obstacle. |
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Who cares if there's a LOGICAL reason or not? Logic is only one ground of objection, and why should we be so limited? I wouldn't eat your Kuru-brand cultured human meat because there are less revolting sources of protein around. |
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Is it illegal to cut a steak from your own flank, cook it and eat it? |
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[guncandy], the "logic" you presented is very much like
logic used to ban guns. "Somebody MIGHT shoot
someone!!!" Are you not aware that in Switzerland,
most families have things like grenade launchers in their
homes? Most adult men were in the Swiss military, and
remain in the reserve forces. There was a reason why
Germany in WW2 didn't make any serious effort to
conquer Switzerland. |
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The relevant fact is, where are all the news stories of
guns getting mis-used in Switzerland? The country has
firearms training to a degree that the USA should
seriously copy. EDUCATION is the answer to your
irrational objection. |
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[the porpoise], Kuru is one of the diseases that would
be strictly kept out of lab-grown meat. Duh! |
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haha but you missed something, that logic is not needed. Just by feeding people a substance they will feel desire to eat it without any rational justification. Have you had lychee fruit before, I only ask because it is somewhat exotic. If you have not had it you will not desire it. |
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The whole idea is a semantic trap. Cells grown in a meat factory are no more human than a bag of peas. Even if they once were derived from human material, they lack any human quality. So eating them is not cannibalism at all. And likewise, calling the resulting substance "meat" does not make it meat at all, neither pork nor dog nor rat. |
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Uh, the idea of eating cultured cells is not new.
You may recall, not so long ago, a lot of publicity
over a vat-grown burger. |
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The main problem is that cultured human cells (or
pig cells, or any others) tend to have very little
flavour. Having miscalculated when mouth-
pipetting HeLa cells (grown in suspension), I can
tell you that they taste of almost nothing, other
than the salts and foetal calf serum used as a
culture medium. Or maybe Henrietta Lacks was
just unusually bland. |
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You all make very soylent points. |
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[guncandy], you are making the unwarranted
assumption that just because something was available
and desired, it will become unavailable while still being
desired. While I do know such things tend to happen to
some extent, the situation is seldom permanent (else
"retro" stuff would never see a revival). |
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Since food is pretty important stuff, it really can only
become unavailable if the processes by which it is
generated stop working. Farmers may grow less wheat
in a drought, but they don't CAUSE the drought. |
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Factory-grown meat would be as reliable/available as
the production technologies used. If critical food-
production technologies failed, we would be looking at
the overall collapse of civilization. At which time rules
against cannibalism are likely to be moot. (And the
cannibals will likely suffer from the diseases problem
previously mentioned, so even if it happens, we can
expect it to be localized and temporary.) |
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Is there a closed loop problem here? Devouring flesh too close to ones own makeup might make the body a bit confused on what is self and what is not. |
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[+] I'm pretty sure we've done soylent clone before, but the pictures this post brought to mind... Cajun cooking shows featuring real Cajun, people complaining about MSG in their Chinese, hommeburgers, what wine goes best with Norwegian ? steak Tartar ... |
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... squeal like a pig ... |
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Lady fingers and hot lips. |
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//g the unwarranted assumption that just because something was available and desired, it // |
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No I wasn't, I was just speaking generally and not in economies. In economies something can become unavailable when money is unavailable. But generally speaking increasing the desire for human flesh will increase the general consumption of human flesh. |
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That depends on supply. Many people would purchase a flying
car if they were available. Despite demand and available
funding, there is as yet no supply. |
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