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There are a lot of hunters who don't even need
the meat from their kills. They justify their hobby
with words like "tradition" or "sport".
So, let's make it a game that has all the elements
of traditional hunting, but doesn't actually harm
any wildlife.
I say have wildlife authorities
go out and tag all
deer, elk, moose, etc with those electronic tags
they already use for tracking wildlife. Hunters
would use their traditional hunting rifles loaded
with blanks and fitted with a laser sight that
records a "kill" if you hit the tag with it. The laser
sight doesn't actually emit a beam until the
trigger is pulled.
Elk-hunting
http://www.independ...osure-a6698626.html [MaxwellBuchanan, Oct 22 2015]
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good luck convincing the wildlife trackers, neh not gonna
happen. |
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Well all of the hunting I do is feral animal eradication - coincidentally, the meat is heavily contaminated with parasites and diseases and is unfit, generally, for human consumption. |
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I personally don't understand hunting of native animals for other than meat (or perhaps population control, disease mitigation, etc). |
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If you could tag the feral pigs, you'd just kill them. So this idea only applies to hunting animals that there's no reason to hunt anyway. |
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No bone, just, what is wrong with people that want to hunt animals for fun, who belong there anyway? |
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I'm not moralising about the hunting for fun part - it happens to be very fun, but that's also bolstered by the fact that the feral animals are otherwise hugely destructive to native wildlife and flora. I suppose I don't understand why you'd kill a native animal other than for food. |
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Ever since we eradicated the wolves here the conservation authority organizes the hunting season as a cull based on herd sizes. I don't get trophy hunting either, but it takes all kinds I guess. |
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That was what I had in mind, LimpNotes. You'd get
people interested who have a moral objection to
hunting, and it could be used as a major revenue
generator. |
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If this was meant to be tongue in cheek it shouldn't
be. It's actually a really great idea. There's no
conflict between hunters and people who would do
something like this. I would think hunters would do
this occasionally when they didn't feel like field
dressing their catch, taking it back and preparing it. |
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Of course, to make sense you'd probably need a rifle
shaped smart image / shape processing cam that just
recognized the shape of the animal then computed
whether or not you got a kill shot. |
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The hunting equivalent of catch and release. An
enthusiastic bun for this one. |
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Of course the simplest way to do this is to have a
camera "gun" with a simple cross hair in the middle
where you take the picture, take it back, see that
the crosshairs were centered on a "kill" area of the
animal and score it accordingly. |
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Thank you for the effort, [21 Quest], but I'm not sure if the
evil hunters would go for it. |
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I'm an animal lover, oh wise one [custardguts]. Unless for
survival I do not see the beauty, only the evil, in killing
something for sport. |
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I get that, I just don't like being called evil. You might note that I'm not calling you names. |
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//I get that, I just don't like being called evil.// |
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Given your first post, she's not. And you seem to agree with her. |
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<as the good grammarians nod knowingly> |
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On second reading that appears so, if you include turtles and other native fauna inside your definition of "for survival". |
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It's a fair cop guv' - 'e were just plain wrong 'e was. |
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You are kind and benevolent...[Custardguts],I think, I was
speaking of those who kill for the thrill. I find no good in that
action, only evil. All of life is beautiful and serves nature a
purpose, I propose. I believe we agree on this. |
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The good thing about this idea is that many, many other animals and nonanimal things could be added to the list of huntables, provided that the huntable item could carry a tag. For example I encountered an Oldsmobile Toronado last night. Wow! I would love to zap that with my tagger and add it to my list! |
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Hunters might want their tag zappers to look like rifles or bows or whatever, for the sake of tradition. For urban hunting I think a smart phone-looking zapper might be better, to reduce the risk of being shot by cops. |
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I'm selectively kind and almost certainly not benevolent. I get the feeling you likely are both. |
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To be honest there's something very primal and immensely enjoyable about the hunting I've done - both pest eradication and food harvest. I won't be made to feel ashamed of that and on the contrary I think it's completely natural - hence my reply to what I mistakeny thought was a loaded comment by you. |
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I can't imagine bothering to use a system such as this that [21] proposes. Others might. Who's to know? |
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This would also be useful in teaching kids tracking
skills. |
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I like the idea of the tag being a little barcode, read by the laser and a photodiode. I know you want the rifle to go 'bang!', but I imagine it going 'bip' when you scan the prey instead. |
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And when you left the reserve you'd get the pictures you'd taken, and a itemised printout with a score. |
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Now I enjoy the occasional deer stew, fried deer meat with A1 and deer Jerky. So as an alternative for people that just want to play with guns paint ball, laser tag and water gun fights are perfectly fine. If you need to shoot a real gun shooting ranges and targets set up in fields are fine. Especially if you need to protect your self from terrorist, jihad and radical Islam. Or the odd thief or home invasion. Then you have have socialist, communist, and all the crazy stuff like aliens and moth men, and big foot, and the other boogie men. |
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It could have a website where you could type in a hunting
license and pull up a verified "kill" list. You could order
photographs of your "kill", artificial trophies of precisely the
same size, and score sheets including the difficulty of the
hunt in that area. |
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