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The inflatable/pneumatic tyre was a genuine inflection point in human technological development. Before this, people juddered around on iron-rimmed wooden wagon wheels. Take a look at a a horse-drawn carriage from the past <link>. It's design is dominated by attempts to improve the ride. The wheels are
huge, so they have longer contact patches that don't sink as far into small dips. The axles are on elliptical leaf springs and then the passenger compartment is entirely suspended on enormous springs. The lack of a flexible member between wheel and road meant that wheels had to be made resistant to shocks, although they broke frequently anyway. One ride on a bicycle with solid tires* is enough to convince anyone of the value of pneumatic tires.
Tank tracks were initially developed for... well, tanks. Moving at walking pace across soft ground doesn't need much in the way of comfort, and comfort was very much a low priority in the early vehicles. Modern tanks are so massive (60+ tonnes) that they crush a smooth path on uneven ground, yet they often feature sophisticated suspension systems.
So, the idea is to take a standard rubber vehicle track and include a chamber running around the center circumference. This is then inflated with low pressure air, tracks have much more surface area than tires, so this will be between 1/2 and 1/1000th of normal tire pressure, 0.1-15 PSI or so. The track structure will be optimized so that the outer central region bulges out slightly when the chamber is inflated. Now the tracked vehicle rides on the center section of the track suspended on a pneumatic chamber. This pneumatic chamber will conform easily to small deviations offering comfort, extra grip and some additional protection to the track running gear.
It's difficult to place a valve for inflation in this arrangement, however, the pressures are so low, that you could get away with a needle-through a bung type arrangement found on footballs/syringe injection ports.
*Or any car with oversized wheels and super low profile tires, added points if the tires are run-flats with minimal flexibility. As further evidence toward my overarching theory that racing ruins everything, see huge alloy wheels w/low profile tires. Why would you need low profile tires? Because you have huge wheels and the overall wheel/tire still needs to fit. Why do you need the wheels to be made of shatter-prone alloy? Because the weight needs to be kept down on such huge wheels. Why are the wheels so huge? To fit over the massive brakes. Why are the brakes so big? Because that's necessary to cool them. Why so much cooling, because you're losing 100mph 4x in 5 mins, why? Because racing. So the ride in your Audi A5 is jiggly & awful because of the racing you don't do, and a modest pothole will destroy both wheel and tire. Compare and contrast steel-wheeled Ford Crown Vics with normal sidewalls that were specced to be OK hitting kerbs at 40mph.
Shall we dance?
https://youtu.be/8A...si=_MBQ10TdPyWvJU2E Lowride your Abrams [minoradjustments, Jan 20 2024]
HydroPneumatic Abrams
https://www.reddit....ype_hydropneumatic/ [bs0u0155, Jan 22 2024]
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Ground pressure for an Abrams is 15psi. It doesn't matter if it's on steel treads or pneumatic chambers, that's what it takes to hold up the tank. The real trick is going to be coming up with a pneumatic chamber that isn't cut by pinching when the track encounters a high point, and is stiff enough to stop or start the tank without shredding. |
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(Note that Abrams treads do have hard rubber pads already, and they wear quickly). |
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//The real trick is going to be coming up with a pneumatic chamber that isn't cut by pinching when the track encounters// |
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I'm thinking a relatively small chamber with relatively thick walls, say 1/2" rubber, 1/2" chamber, 1/2" rubber which I think should take care of it. Pinching inner tubes happened a lot with mountain bike tubes back in the day. You can solve it with just having more rubber. |
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//Note that Abrams treads do have hard rubber pads already, and they wear quickly// |
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I wasn't really thinking about actual tanks. Everything is a bit different at that scale/mass. It's just there isn't another way of communicating "tracks" clearly without "tank" as a descriptor. |
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Regardless, simply inflating the existing tread doesn't reduce ground pressure, unless the inflated area is wider/longer than the standard tread. A low ground pressure Cat excavator appears to run about 3psi, a standard Cat about 6-7. Snow mobile type vehicles ~0.5 psi, and tracked ATVs 0.7. But for most of these, the cleats digging into the ground is an important part of their propulsion. Cushioning the area between the cleats will have limited effect. |
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It's not about reducing ground pressure, it's about having a pneumatic chamber in the system for all it's excellent shock absorbing qualities. That and it should conform a little bette around ground features. |
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[+] If the compensation was calibrated at the front end of the track but the adjustment was made at the rear drive wheel on the fly, a particular type of changing terrain could be accommodated. Injecting air at the rear allows the compensation to ameliorate the immediately upcoming terrain. |
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The adjustment only needs to last the duration of the tracks contact with the terrain, and may be reset to zero or maintained or increased as it passes the injection site on the next turn. |
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Hard to tell if the farting, belching, bellowing and hissing this system causes will be a benefit in battle, but it will sound totally awesome as it approaches. |
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If the deluxe version is installed you can break the game. (link) |
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//passes the injection site on the next turn.// |
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I suspect that having online adjustable rotation-by-rotation track pressure would be tricky to do and even trickier to make reliable in battle conditions. If you want to make adjustments like that, I'd go with a hydro-pneumatic suspension, but then that's at least been looked at <link>. This would bring many advantages: Smoother ride and adjustable ride height. The latter would be very useful in creating a much lower profile target, gaining ground clearance or if used in a more zone-independent way, the tank could be angled to add to the range of motion of the gun. |
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[bs0] I envisioned a jet nozzle that blew through a gland in a deep crease in the side of the tread as it swept by. This could happen in a better-protected section of the track near the rear and would have the release and injection functions in the same module. |
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You dont need a lot of pressure to get the benefit. |
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