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A police officer stopped me yesterday to ask if I needed assistance. Apparently someone told them I might. It happened I did not. But even if I did need help I would have done precisely the same thing, to wit saying I didn't need help. This is because police are not a friend in my country. Law enforcement
should not be saddled with the responsibility to also help in non-law-enforcement areas.
It got me thinking. There are probably thousands of cases daily of people needing help that could be provided by police but unwilling to accept the risks that go along with that. People suffering drug withdrawal can't discuss their illegal activities. Illegal immigrants. Domestic abuse victims who don't want their partners arrested. Homeless people who don't trust police. Past victims of police brutality. People who have been in accidents but don't want insurance to get involved. These people need a different organization.
This organization would send people out equipped with boxes of food, first aid kits, locally applicable requirements, lists of charity organizations and food banks, and a lot of compassion. The would be trained in all the aspects of police work that involve helping people but not in arresting them. Also in first aid, treating withdrawal symptoms, immigration law, and other commonly needed knowledge. They would have no authority beyond what any every day citizen has. The police could call a car out, they could be dispatched by national emergency lines, and they would have their own phone numbers.
Highest and lowest suicide rates by profession.
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[doctorremulac3, May 09 2022]
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Are you living in the Congo? Ali, Bomaye? |
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I'm going to have to leave that unanswered for privacy purposes, [4] |
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+ I like the idea, but not the government
involvement. Maybe this can be done another way.
We know a thrift shop owner who helps the
homeless etc. and we donate money to his cause. |
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Now, currently the homeless know of him and go to
him for help. |
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Yes, nice. Independent, like a mesh network of trusted individuals out in the field, that get a license and badge, backed resources, and can support each other. |
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This is exactly what was proposed in many of the cities
that debated defunding their police departments. |
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Until I am elected Benevolent Planetary Sovereign, the word 'govern' is just a code-name for the word 'subjugate'. |
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A vote for me... is a vote for you. |
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Is this not just policing reform? In my opinion all these nice roles you describe are exactly what the police should be doing. |
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I think this is essentially what people are getting at when they call to 'defund the police'. |
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I'm not calling for defunding the police. (not that I would be opposed if this were to reduce the number needed) Also I think police should be enforcing the laws, not performing public welfare. |
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I've mentioned, I've done ride-alongs with my son who's a
police officer in a major US city and as part of his patrols
done welfare checks on homeless camps. Just walking
through and asking if everybody's okay, if they need
anything, if anybody needs to go to the hospital etc.
Unfortunately, also looking for the occasional dead body. |
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You'd be surprised how happy some of them are to see us,
nervous because many of them have drugs on them, but
when it's made clear that this is simply a welfare check
there's a somewhat moving appreciation they show that
there’s at least somebody out there who cares about them. |
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I fully support establishment of auxiliary government,
private or volunteer organizations to take some of the
burden off of our overworked police, but I also think those
who
call for defunding the police should show us how it's done
by making it clear they don't want any police protection.
Start with those politicians getting a hundred grand a year
worth of private security while saying the regular citizen
should fend for themselves. We don't get police protection,
you don't
get police protection. |
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You, too, can have all the private security you can afford. The law and its majestic equality. |
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There is a Youtube video of some jerk who hired 50 security agents (7X more than the president of the U.S.) to lead him towards to a restaurant which only takes bookings from A-list people. |
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I'm not at all religious, but churches usually pick up the slack where governments stop helping. Religion or government, although many people choose neither? |
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Reasonably good 24/7 private security will set you
back about $900. (Ammo and trips to the range not
included.) |
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In Israel the welfare do that with the homeless. Every day
they do "rounds", talking to each and every one of the
homeless and help them out with whatever is needed. When a
homeless man was found dead after a recent storm, the
woman from welfare who had met him a day earlier spoke on
the radio about the difficulties that she experienced with
these people, and explained why she could not force him into
a shelter, and what went wrong. |
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The trick is that this might take all of the 'good' moments of
being a police officer and fill their day with just the bad /
dangerous / crime dealing stuff. |
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Hmm. Interesting point. Being a police officer is
already extremely hard, their suicide rate is the
third highest of any profession. |
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Bit of a tangent, looking it up I was kind of blown
away by the others, you will be too. |
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JOBS WITH HIGHEST SUICIDE RATES: |
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1. Medical Doctors
2. Dentists
3. Police Officers
4. Veterinarians
5. Financial Services
6. Real Estate Agents
7. Electricians
8. Lawyers
9. Farmers
10. Pharmacists |
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I can see doctors and police officers but the others
are pretty surprising. Electricians? |
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maybe they misread some accidental electrocutions? |
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Just for balance, see lowest and highest suicide
rates by profession. (link) |
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Seems like tedious jobs are the worst, I'd suggest
looking into a program to have these workers listen
to podcasts or other mentally stimulating stuff while
working the tedious assembly line. |
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Looks like a list of people that deal with a neverending
cascade of fixing other people's problems and bad news. |
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Hmm. Good point. Nobody's ever said "Call 911, get
the police here to deal with the situation and get
this
person to a hospital, he's just having a really nice
day." |
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And listening to interesting podcasts probably
wouldn't a be
good solution to the stresses of being a first
responder. I could never do it. |
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We had just got a call over the
radio about a wellness check for an elderly person
that was found to have passed away. The family
couldn't get in touch with their parent and the
police had to break in and find the dead body and
notify the relatives. Then just a few minutes after
hearing about this we got a call, a family couldn't
get in touch with their dad. As I stood there with
my boy knocking on the door I remember my heart
sinking as the minutes ticked by, some neighbors
had come to see why two police cars were parked
on their street. Then when the elderly gentleman
opened the door I actually said "YES!" and made a
fist pump. I think the neighbors thought I was a
plain clothes detective or something and looked at
me like "Hmm, doesn't seem like appropriate CSI
behavior.". |
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He was having his house worked on and the phone
was temporarily disconnected. |
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Farmers and Real Estate agents jump out as not quite from
the same issues; isolation and constant weather and
equipment breakage for the first and maybe weird working
hours, nightmarish paperwork and bureaucrap for the second I
guess. |
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Back to the idea, maybe this type of work could be on a
rotating sabbatical of some kind for the stressor jobs. |
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Please tell me you made that term up. I'll be using it
a lot. |
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I'm afraid that to use it you're going to need to fill out
this stack of forms, and seek approval from the
Commission on Linguistic Affairs, which is down the
hall. Stewart, the Linguistic Affairs Officer, however,
is on extended administrative leave, and his
replacement works in office on the first and third
Tuesdays in
June. |
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Unless I have connections in high office or am a hefty
contributor to various agencies. |
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Which I don't and am not. |
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//Real Estate Agents//
Most real estate agents seem to be a particular "type" of
personality. So (not being a psychiatrist or anything...) I
suspect it's more "people prone to suicidal thoughts are also
frequently real estate agents"; not so much one causes the
other, just overlap due to personality type. |
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I just bought a property and I wouldn't blame my
agent for killing himself. |
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"It's that doctorremulac3 guy, he changed his mind
again! Not palatial enough, looks like hillbillies would
live here, if I get a helicopter, where would I put the
helipad?" "Are you getting a helicopter?" "No, those
are really expensive but you never know." |
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I have heard that Stewart's replacement is highly fond of a
particular brand of dark chocolate. And tickets to cock-
fighting events... |
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