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It would be wonderful to have a bath with fish swimming
around me, but not actually in the water. A double layered
bath made of toughened pyrex with enough space between
the layers to house tropical fish - this would also keep the
bath water temp warmer for longer. It would also be funny (or
maybe not) if anyone else needed to use the bathroom at the
same time
Pet paradise
http://www.halfbake...idea/Pet_20Paradise
my fishies fun day out [gizmo, May 02 2002, last modified Oct 04 2004]
accessorise...
http://www.seashell...etseats/aqarian.asp
I am just amazed that there is actually a domain name called seashelltoiletseats! I was looking for a shop I know called kitschensync.co.uk in which I am sure I've seen toilet seats, but their site seems to be down. [sappho, May 03 2002, last modified Oct 04 2004]
(?) Aquariass
http://elseware.to/...ducts/aquariass.htm
A matching lav. [calum, May 03 2002]
Slice-of-nature wall
http://www.halfbake...ce-Of-Nature_20Wall
Similar idea awhile ago for house walls [RayfordSteele, May 06 2002, last modified Oct 04 2004]
"Waiter, there's a fish in my cistern..."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1478205.stm
[my face your, Oct 04 2004]
Fish Bath
http://totallyabsurd.com/fishbath.htm
patented since '82 [FarmerJohn, Oct 04 2004]
Fish Sink
http://www.homeclic...e.asp?itemid=123531
Here is the sink version already for sale [crabbie, Oct 04 2004]
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where do the fish go when you pull the plug? |
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The bath is double skinned, the water in the bath has
nothing to do with the water within the two layers of
pyrex.The fish would probably swim to the back of the
bath when the plug is pulled out because they might hear
the water swishing away and be a little worried. |
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Thank you bliss. It was tasty, chocolate chip buns - my
favorite. |
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bris...how about illustrating this one? Could be fun and colorful! |
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giz, great idea! I picture them able to access all four sides of a tub...how about extending the "fish tank" up to about 4' in height at the back of the tub so that you have a place to access the fish to feed them? Have you researched the temperature that tropical fish need to kept at? What is it compared to average bath temperature? |
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...this lad's a genius..... |
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I love this idea giz. I find the thought of having a bath
rather boring, a waste of time, but once in there, really
relax. This idea would have me longing to get in and
watch my fishies. Could it have an extra depth
underneath for shells and coral. |
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I have a six year old goldfish called 'Black 'n' Orange' but
now he is just 'Orange', don't know where his black spot
went, but he would love swimming around the outside of
my bath, and maybe under, so much more room. Fun day
out for fishies. |
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//and be a little worried.// only our dear gizmo could say that. I wish I could croissant that remark. |
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sorry, petrified to be honest, but as fish only have a
memory of 4 seconds, they would turn round before they
got to the rear of the bath, totally forgetting what they
were frightened of - I think - maybe (black and orange
would - oops, 'Orange' would). |
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You know, Gizmo, maybe the fish "Black and Orange" is only "orange" now because, well...it could perhaps be a different fish? Maybe you would be best to ask your mother, and keep us posted. |
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{sctld], I was thinking the same thing but I didn't want to upset him. Maybe the black spot just faded with age...after all, six is pretty darn old for a goldfish. Most people would have gone through two or three in that time..... |
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Well i had a Goldfish that was older than that and it turned out that it was 'replaced' by a similar one. |
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You'd have to run a lukewarm bath. If you used hot water, the heat would transfer though to the fish water and raise their temperature beyond healthy levels. |
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I know for sure that black and orange changed colour
because he eats orange food and now the rest of the fish
in the tank are orange (one used to be completely black
(called Blacky - he is now called Orange also) I watched
the progression of the black spot fading. |
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If you used some modern insulation techniques, double-paning, etc, you might be able to achieve a sufficient R-value to keep the water the right temp. Not certain, I'd have to run some numbers. |
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I know my mum would have told me if my fish had died.
She broke the news to my twin (some years ago) when
"Lurp" (a white goldfish) snuffed it. |
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"I loved my fish more than persketti" he cried. (he loves
pasta). |
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gizmo has a twin! 'bakers, we're only getting half of the good stuff - giz, introduce him/her please? |
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he's already here, that's all I'm saying for now..... guess
who! |
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<stern voice> shouldn't you be at school just now? </stern voice> |
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thats In-Service Training for Teachers (children not required to attend) as you were gizmo. |
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I'm not sure that the fish will appreciate the view that they will have to put up with. |
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constantly updated three-second memories of painful images, you mean? ooh. we may need to offer these fish some PTSD counselling.
ok, I believe you giz. But perhaps that biology homework would take you to the page about optimum temperatures for tropical fish, as someone asked before. |
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The thickness of the pyrex would have to be increased to
deflect the heat of the bath by about 30*f, by my
calculations this would make it about |
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|--------------------| ---this thick |
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I refuse to believe this would be difficult to implement. I remember an advertisement (from years ago) for the paper industry where a chick (chicken type) was placed in what appeared to be a cardboard box which was placed in a pot of boiling water. And so it went while the announcer spoke for 30 seconds or so. Then the box was removed, opened and out popped the chick - none the worse for having been boiled. |
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Now, paper (especially corrugated) and glass/plastic are two different beasts, but.... |
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2 and a half cr's in one day. Something about aquariums in weird places seems to appeal to this crowd. |
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The toilet thing was the first idea, but I thouht it was a
bit yukky really!! - No, to be truly honest, my first thought
on this was see thrugh pans, which my mum told me had
been baked, then loos. |
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Hi gizmo you know who i am. i think this is a brill idea and i would love to have a i can 'sea' U bath. |
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Oh well, <sighs> two gizmo's was too much to expect. this other one might be fun though. |
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cleaning the bath was never much fun. |
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A wonderful idea which I'd love myself! However, you are going to have to come up with a way of cleaning the 'tank' as Rods Tiger says. This really is vital!Otherwise, after a while you won't be able to see the fish through the brown water and the green algae which invariably covers the side of fish tanks. Afraid I'm going to have to be different and fishbone this for now. When you come up with a feasible cleaning mechanism you are welcome to a croissant! |
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Sorry [po] 'wkd man' is my friend, (a newbie - so please be
nice) - my brother has been
here about the same length of time as me, and had a
couple of ok-ish ideas. |
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[ferret] I already thought of this one, half fill the bath
with lovely clean water, open the special sealed door to
release fish and water into the bath, close the door, let
fish play whilst draining all the water out of the outer
tanks through a plug devise near the bottom of the tank,
wipe the glass, fill half full with clean water, then let the
fish back in, some of the old diluted water would also go
in, but that is OK, fish need some muck to help them. |
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Rods: how did frogs get in there? |
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Hmm... 1970s... disco... goldfish in shoe soles. |
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Can you add a combination shower - salmon falls? |
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My cats would like to know if they can vote also - x 3 |
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I fail to see why your cats would like this idea, aren't the
fish behind 3.5 cm of pyrex? |
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Baked, or very nearly so: in the 007 movie Diamonds are Forever, some Vegas hotel room had a round bed that had a wrap-around aquarium. The central area had a mattress, but that could easily be replaced by some kind of tub. |
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Since the curvature of the tub would magnify the view above, all the fish would get concussions trying to swim into the sea cavern(s). |
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Unabubba:wrong keep guessing, and ferret where is my
croissant. |
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how about 2 seperate baths one inside the other so that the inside one can be lifted out for cleaning |
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giz: My cats would be happy just to sit and watch - all
day. |
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does that include taste? M. |
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However, wouldn't it give you the creeps if piranhas were swimming around you? |
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I don't think it would feel very nice if piranhas were bitng
you either. |
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Well, that *does* depend on your personal taste, I 'spose.. |
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Uhh.. with all due respect, *I'd* feel creepified if piranhas were in the tank, even if there was no chance they could get out.. |
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drew-drew, barney Mcgrew: The choice of fish is
optional, if you are wary of piranhas -
don't put them in the tank - doh. |
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Personally I would prefer the very titchy tiny things that
swin in a group, but look like a large fish at a glance. |
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Somewhat late in the day (because I've only just got back in town and read Gizmo's brilliant idea) how about (ref: Farmer John) having salmon leaping upshower for spawning purposes. |
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giizmo - OK, that sounds possible, However, please explain how you would 'wipe' the inside of the tank clean? I mean, how would you get your arm inside the tank, with the bath in the way? |
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I have the solution: Use a magnetic cleaner, one side in the tank with a velcro scouring pad on it, the other outside the tank with a small handle on it. Then, as you move the handle round outside, the scourer moves around on the inside also. It would work but you'd need very strong magnets for 3.5 cm of perspex! |
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OK, croissant........but I get some credit ;-) |
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Add some snails. They will clean the glass for you. |
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...or some of those sucker fish. |
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yes, those are both good ideas. However, i found it dosnt matter how many of the buggers you get, the slime always takes over in the end!!! |
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[ferret] I was imagining a sponge on a flexable stick for
cleaning the glass, but the magnet thing sounds good. |
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[maggie] A perspex tube could be attached to the bath to
carry water up to the ceiling with a sort of waterfall
effect for the salmon to leap up. GM salmon/goldfish to
make them small but leapy. |
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Why does the wall have to be so thick? Just double-wall the thing and the R-value should improve nicely. Thermoses are capable of maintaining this temperature difference without all the beef, (although they're not made of clear plastic). |
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Or better yet- double wall the tub and fill the void between the two walls with cold water that is on its way to the faucet. This will simultaneously keep the fish tank cool while recovering wasted heat from the tub water. |
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The fish would die from the rapid water temperature changes. |
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Actually, gizmo covered that problem |
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//The thickness of the pyrex would have to be increased to deflect the heat of the bath by about 30*f, by my calculations this would make it about
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gizmo, May 03 2002 // |
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For all who have once-black-now-orange goldfish. They all start out dark!! From olivey brown to black as fry they gradually turn orange, some faster than others and the occasional one remains black. This dark colour is the wild form and is often found in captive bred goldfish.
There are problems with this...the sides of a bath are not going to offer much swimming space, there is no oppurtunity for gas exchange, where's the filter?, [gizmo] raw tap water is not suitable for any fish to live in and goldfish certainly do not only have 4 second memories. They can also live for 20 years and more so a 6 year old is still a baby. |
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Lastly, goldfish are luckily tough and so often survive being kept in sorely inadequate tanks/bowls etc . The fact that they are so easy to acquire and cheap means that people treat them as expendable decorations as does this idea. They are just as worthy of proper and responsible care as any other pet. If you have/wish to have a goldfish as a pet, please go to a pet shop or library and READ UP on it first. It will provide you with invaluable information that will (hopefully) extend your pets life and, after all, you love your goldy dontcha?? No wonder..Me too. |
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I'll take your word for it |
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don't know if anyone else has ever witnessed (or been the cause of) a pyrex bowl breaking, but it is not pretty. i dropped my supposedly indestructable pyrex bowl in the sink, and it made a sound like a gunshot and shattered into a million wedge shaped blades. much more dangerous than ordinary glass. |
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don't know what perspex is, but i was thinking plexiglas would probably be good, although i don't know how it stands up to high temperatures... |
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My mum had a goldfish who lived for 23 years, before unceremoniously bursting into two pieces (ugh) three years ago. I always remember feeling guilty because it just looked so booooored. Now with this idea, my mum's mind won't *swim* with anxiety when the new fish comes. Good job, gizmo. |
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[Fog] – your two anno’s are gross. [msmd] – I second [gizmo]’s question. Sure it wasn’t a starfish? [gizmo], croissant – my first read of this idea. |
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Oh...this is a lovely, lovely idea...but I'm afraid I have some bad news. I think this has already been done! I recently (maybe two weeks ago) saw the patent for it in the newspaper. I'm so sorry! |
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The temperature change cuased by drawing a hot bath would kill the fish |
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The algae/scum problem can be solved. One of my favorite bars has a fish tank bar top. It's a huge horseshoe-shaped salt water fish tank, but it's only 2.5' wide and 6" deep. It cost over $3M to build and because of its surface area to volume ratio and lack of openings through which it could be cleaned, it took the designer 6 months to figure out the right mix of pumps, hydroponic plants, ornamental fish and snails to keep the water clean. It's a bit unnerving to see a fishie swimming under your 6th whiskey or an anemone reaching for your peanuts, but it's worth it. |
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Double-paning would probably be the best way to reduce heat problems, but the space would have to be a vacuum. If you run water through it, you have to worry about keeping that clean, too. High-end window manufacturers pump a gas between the panes that improves the windows' R-value. Maybe lots of small peltier-cooled pumps would do the rest? |
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Fester, how bout a link to the bar...or a pic. It sounds quite interesting |
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(SJ) I'll try to remember my camera the next time I go. The place changed ownership again ("Crabs" on Pensacola Beach), no web site yet. |
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gt: Do you think they might have stolen the idea from
here? |
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+ wow, from the days of 62buns! I hadn't bunned it before. |
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