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Being in a hypnotic state (with more pronounced theta waves?) may help you absorb information more easily [citation needed]. However, learning is not merely about absorbing information, its about changing the way you think. |
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I could see hypnosis might be useful in, for example, increasing vocabulary in foreign languages, but it would have to used in conjunction with standard teaching techniques. |
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Maybe the students could be hypnotized and then be persuaded to enjoy their homework ? |
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Many lecturers demonstrate an uncanny ability to induce a state of stupor in a roomful of students, simply by their standard lecturing technique. If you introduce hypnosis on top of that, some of them may never wake up... |
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Some of them were never awake to begin with. |
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Traditional college and university lectures won't be
around much longer, unless somebody invents a new
gimmick. Maybe this is it. |
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That is sad. The closest I've gotten to sitting in on an actual lecture has been a TED talk. |
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A few of those have been rather hypnotic. |
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Watch the watch. Watch the watch... |
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2 fries, I can highly recommend "RSA animate" for the rather hypnotic and educational lecture experience. |
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Try a late night OU maths course from the 1980s
On a serious note, NLP neuro linguistic programming is a type of suggestion that is supposed to be helpful for adults returning to education. |
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It's the things like; in order to learn science coming from any other culture other than latin forces a student to pretty much have to learn another language on top of learning the science itself, and much the same in math.
Words like *trigonometry, acute, and obtuse* are all foreign and when first heard or read, and have no point of refference to hang them from.
Being latin, those same words when first heard would be *three side math, closed, and open* or something similar, and would make perfect sense to the student doing the learning. |
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A bit of post hypnotic Latin primer to draw from would go a long way. |
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// Try a late night OU maths course from the 1980s // |
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No longer possible; the videotapes were all verifiably destroyed as part of post-Cold War treaties on unconventional weapons. |
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Even now, the skeletonised remains of former OU students are still occasionally found, still seated in their armchair, facing the TV, cup of coffee in hand, lecture notes open on their lap.
Terrible way to die ... |
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If all of this education is imparted while the student is
under hypnosis, how is it to be recalled after the student is
revived from the hypnotic state? As [2Fries] points out,
there are people who are not susceptable to hyponosis; I
am one of them (not even EMDR works on me), and thus
have no first-hand experience, but I am given to
understands that one of the hallmarks of hypnosis is the
subject having zero recall of any experience undergone
while hypnotized. |
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Huh, I always thought that was up to the hypnotist. |
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[2fries], IMO, the reason for importing words from
a foreign, even dead language, into technical
vocabulary is precisely the lack of referents: they
receive only the precise technical definition
they're given, an carry no other baggage. In this
view, not knowing Latin is if anything an
advantage, akin to the advantage blind
mathematicians apparently have over sighted
ones in geometry. |
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[Alterother] people trained under hypnosis would
have to do their jobs under hypnosis, that's all. |
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Sometimes I wonder if some people are already doing their
jobs in hypnotic states... |
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//the reason for importing words from a foreign, even dead language, into technical vocabulary is precisely the lack of referents: they receive only the precise technical definition they're given, an carry no other baggage. In this view, not knowing Latin is if anything an advantage// |
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I'd have to say that I disagree with this on principle.
Not that I think that what you say is untrue, I disagree with the rational. |
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By all means introduce propper names for science or math terms once a student shows a grasp of the concept named, but 'after' a concept is grasped, not before.
I can't help but wonder if part of the reason that students in say China excel over those in North America is because these concepts are originally conveyed in their own language. This messed me right up as a kid, (I was in the minority I know) Without something to attach memmories to, I just draw a blank when trying to recall them. The way Everything was taught was... backwards, and confusing on purpose it seemed. |
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To me the naming of all of the words appears rooted in vanity. Sure a guy should get recognition for being the first to originate a concept and name a thing, but to have to have all of their last names and their obscure namings shoved down your throat 'while' trying to understand the underlying ideas, (which should be the important part), seems to be, well... stupid. |
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D'yever get the feeling that you should have been consulted? |
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No, I should by no means have been consulted. You
wouldn't want an educational system* designed
according to my notion of "reasonable." |
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*Or anything else for that matter. |
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Perfectly reasonable, that's just the problem. And it continues to
sound perfectly reasonable, even when you've all drawn up in
two lines facing the enemy, the sargeant has goven the order to
'Fix Bayonets! ', and you're still wondering in a vague sort of way
why [mouseposture] gets such nice clothes and a big horse to sit
on, way behind everyone else… |
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2 fries: Dr. Richard Feynman had complained about that very tendency since the 1960's, and has a nice anecdote about that very topic in one of his books, where his father used to take him on walks and tell him all about the scientific details of specific birds, without worrying about their names that much. One of his childhood friends, however, was taught the names of birds in several different languages. The friend quizzed Feynman once on his knowledge: 'Do you know what they call this bird in <insert foreign language here>?' When Feynman answered in the negative, the playmate retorted that he didn't know anything about birds. |
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Interesting. I know that I did and do this same thing with my daughter. From the time she was old enough to ask a question I felt she deserved to have an answer if I knew it. Since her vocabulary isn't equal to mine then I feel as her teacher that I have to rephrase my explanations in terms that she already knows. She seems to have the same dificulty learning to read and spell that I did and struggles in our school system even though though it's obvious to anyone speaking to her that she's sharp as a tack. |
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I like Feynman. I like his video lectures and I especially liked the TED talk by Leonard Susskind pointing out how ready he was to admit his own mistakes or scrap an assumption. |
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He was a great man without a doubt. |
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While some people are very resistant to being hypnotized by
someone else, there are reasons to believe this is because
they "self-hypnotize". Try it, but be careful what you wish
for! Do you really want to wake up refreshed at 6am? Only to
crash later in the day. |
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//He was a great man without a doubt.// Shirley
one of the things that made Feynman so great was
that he _did_ doubt? |
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"Science does everything it can to prove itself wrong..religion does everything it can to prove itself right." (Carl Sagan) |
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