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1966 wold cup final - did the ball cross the line?
Every time a shot in football comes off the bar, bounces in the goalmouth and comes out again, the same debate always happens about whether a goal has been scored or not.
If they simply put a 2 inch layer of sand in the goal, whenever the ball
supposedly bounced over the line, the ref could go and see where the mark in the sand was and tell instantly if it was a goal or not, then rake over the sand after every goal
Not dangerous for the keeper, very cheap and can't break down - a lot quicker and more reliable than using TV replays as well
EDIT: that's sand in the goal mouth where the keeper never really goes except to pick the ball out of the back of the net, not sand in the six yard box
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Not very dangerous for the keeper? What about when he dives and gets sand in his eyes? |
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Even better, replace the sand with wet paint. Or treacle. Dare I say custard? If there's any on the ball, it's a goal. |
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Do what they do in hockey - they use a camera mounted directly above the goal line, looking straight down. Quick check of the video shows right away, and no raking. |
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Won't the sand be disturbed by the movement of the goalkeeper over the line, or will there be a small slave boy to carefully rake it smooth every few minutes? |
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A hot little slave girl would make for better ratings. |
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The whole point of soccer is that it is refereed by a human bean, not some technogizmo device. If the referee makes a mistake, it's still the correct call. |
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I thought the whole point was to run around kicking a ball. But then, I never did get soccer. |
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Surely the goalie would wedge his elbow in the sand (or say that had happened when the ball goes in). What about simple photo-electric cells over the line. No, same problem I guess. Same ole prob- just let the ref see the TV. Why don't they do that? |
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Although joking, you've actually solved it, Zanzibar. Have a croissant on me. |
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That wouldn't solve it with precision - that is, you couldn't tell if the ball went completely over the line. |
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[DrCurry]: The whole point of soccer is to get the ball in the net, shirley? No, I'm with you on this one. The 'referee is always right' ethos has always been the point of view taken by officials. |
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But I am more and more inclined these days to think that certain situations could be improved on with a quick and efficient video replay of some sort - with "advice" by the fourth official. The referee should still have ulimate power (ultimate corruption?) though. |
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Well, yes, but how about a case where the ball is spinning rapidly enough to become an elliptical shape. If the sensor is located so as to register when the entire diameter of a regulation ball has crossed the line, it will disallow what was technically a goal since all of the elliptical ball had indeed crossed the goal line.
I think this is a great idea. If the goalie got hungry he could eat the sandwiches there (with apologies to sambwiches).
waugs - where would they hang the camera, on a skyhook?
Just a thought - would quicksand be dangerous? |
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(waugsqueke) Hmm..true; though I guess U could coat the ball's inside with those strips they put inside books and CDs, or else the detector could be placed a distance of the ball's diameter past the goal line. |
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surely half the fun of it, is arguing the toss about whether it went over the line or not, the legality or not of a tackle, did he touch the ball with his hand or not, is Beckham's hairdo better than the one he had last week. |
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you still haven't *got* it have you. |
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One of the beauties of the beautiful game is that it doesn't take much to play it. Hi tech solutions are fine for the big teams, but they wouldn't be affordable for the little guys, and obviously not for Junior levels, amateur, Sunday league etc. |
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If rule changes at the top can't be implemented lower down the leagues, you'll end up with two or more similar but different games. Thus, the sand in the original idea works for me. But only if the ref allows it... |
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Im getting confused here, is the goal to determine wether the ball has crossed the line, or touched the line. If it is a matter of crossing the line, that is simple, if it went inside the goal area, it must have crossed the line, no shoplifting tag needed. If it is touching the line that is of concern, then you just have a strip of something like a touch screen, but cushioned. This would sense if the ball touched the line or not... |
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Most football fans become severely depressed at this time of year. Its a serious problem honestly. |
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