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Every 25 years, a panel of professional critics from
the Oscars committee, supplemented by a popular
vote, select the twenty best and five worst movies
of all time.
These are then re-made with contemporary
performers and script edits, special effects etc.
The public will then be able to
compare the new
version with the previous version(s).
The five worst are also remade to see if they can be
improved by a new cast and director.
36 Options
http://en.wikipedia...Dramatic_Situations
Depending on who you ask, there are only 36 plots, or 7, or 8, or 3 depending on who you ask. [zen_tom, Oct 01 2012]
Remaking old movies
Re-shoot_20old_20mo...ith_20aged_20actors
Using old actors to reshoot the flashforwards [theleopard, Oct 02 2012]
Everything is a Remix
http://www.everythi...o/watch-the-series/
[tatterdemalion, Oct 02 2012]
Biographers
http://www.lifebookuk.com/
You can all have a biography, for a price. Even the boring ones among you! [theleopard, Oct 04 2012]
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No, it's not. You need to consult some former
British Rail catering staff, who are the
holders of secret knowledge passed down
from Pharonic Egypt. |
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Only with such arcane knowledge could they
create mummified cheese sandwiches which
were effectively immortal. On Tyneside, it
was possible to purchase items with
handwrittent paper labels marked, "Test
Batch No. 1, G. Stevenson". And they were as
good in the 1970's as the day they were
made, which actually isn't any sort of a
recommendation. |
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Movies are so lame these days. Can anybody think of a truly original movie made recently? It's pretty depressing to think that almost every single movie is a remake of another movie, or a book, or a comic, or something. [-] for making even more remakes. |
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// Can anybody think of a truly original movie made
recently? // |
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I can think of several others, but that's the one that
jumped out at me when I looked up at the shelf. |
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This is already happening by itself. Remakes, inspired-
byes, and reimaginings. Some of them are utter drek, but
once in a while a gem re-emerges. The new Flight of The
Pheonix was utterly missable, the new Ocean's 11 was
quite good and spawned two sequels that were even
better. |
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IMO, formalizing the process would not improve the current
state of affairs. It would probably make things worse, as
movies chosen by committee for remakes would be forced
and overdone in a miguided effort to please audiences (for
evidence, I cite the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy), whereas
movies that are remade at the whim of
writers/directors/producers can emerge organically and
carve their own niche. |
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//Can anybody think of a truly original movie made recently?// |
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Seriously though, even Shakespeare rehashed other people's work. |
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They taught me at University, rather uninspiringly,
that all the possible stories have been told, and
what is created now is simply a mish-mash of the
classics. |
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What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. |
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That sounds oddly familiar … |
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Well, we can do you blood and love without
the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and
rhetoric without the love, and we can do you
all three concurrent or consecutive. But we
can't give you love and rhetoric without the
blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood,
you see. |
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//all the possible stories have been told// |
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Opening credits
Things happening with or without music
Closing credits |
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Yes - Rosencranz and Guildenstern Are Dead. |
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Thought so. You'll be trying to unstir your jam from
your porridge next. |
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Many literature types like to say there just seven stories in
the world (man vs. man, man vs. nature, etc.), and
originality is in the re-telling. |
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I prefer to think of it in a simpler way: there are only two
kinds of stories, mine and everyone else's. As long as my
stories are mine, they're original. If somebody else told the
same story before me but I don't know about it, mine is
still original. |
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You will notice that the really good movies aren't remakes. Inception, The Artist, The Man From Earth, etc. All original stories, all excellent. A few non-original stories have turned out to be good but why waste time making bad remakes of classic movies when there are still good stories to be told? |
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//Is that Stoppard, [8th]?//
//Yes//
Statement. One love. |
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// You will notice that the really good movies aren't
remakes. // |
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But many of them are based on or inspired by really good
books or short stories. For instance, 98.7% of the best sci-fi
movies made made in the last 40 years are based on the
writing of Philip K. Dick. The other 1.3% are, of course,
Star Wars Episodes IV-VI, which even George Lucas himself
admits were mostly derived from Kurasawa films. |
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Art does not form in a vacuum. All writers 'steal' from one
another in some way. William Gibson attributes much of
his talent to studying and working with Greg Bear, Bruce
Sterling, and others. My own style is derivative of Chuck
Palanhiuk, Neal Stephensen, and Joseph Heller, not by
intent so much as 'organic'* influence. Writing an original
story requires, in part, being clever and creative enough to
not get caught stealing. |
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* for lack of a better term |
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[Alterother] which is very much the point of the posted link, Everything is a Remix - worth a look if you are interested in this sort of thing. |
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... next up, Quentin Tarantino's new movie
version of Aristophanes' "The Birds" … |
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// Everything is a Remix - worth a look if you are
interested in this sort of thing. // |
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Been there done that bought the t-shirt. Thanks for
providing the link, very interesting but ironically just a new
take on a well-traveled subject. |
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I am always interested in reading about... well, anything,
really, but essays and theses (Thesi? Thesae?) concerning
writing and storytelling always draw my attention. When I
started to pursue writing as a career, I began studying the
craft obsessively. I even have a collection of interviews
with various authors describing their processes (I'm running
the plural form obstacle course today!). A writer's process
is a fascinating thing to me; the environment in which they
work, how they formulate a concept and structure, their
outlining techniques and editing habits, etc. Every writer
has a unique process, and while I have my own and have
never tried to emulate another's, I still love to read about
them. It gives me a different perspective when I'm
studying somebody's work if I can imagine myself in their
place and approach the prose from their point of view.
Also, seeing that some other writers are as eccentric and
demanding in their process as I am is somehow comforting. |
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Damn, I'm doing it again. |
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I saw "A town called Panic" recently. Despite the title, it really is an original film - it's very difficult to see how it might be derived from anything. |
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The problem here is centralization and authority. Both are so passe. Yes pick the ones to remake, but pick them by remaking them, and remake them in a decentralized way, with snippets posted on some internet repository that allows easy cut and pasting (not youtube! argh). Some snips will be good for multiple movies. It might be good to have some agreement among creators about costume given that the actor might change from scene to scene. Perhaps standardized costumes: villain wears black hat and moustachios, hero with ginger wig and loose white shirt, and such. This is how pop hits are made these days, I recently learned. Rihanna is actually nine different people, two of whom have been dead since the 1980s and one of whom is a dude. |
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Exquisite corpse remakes. |
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