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Like the cpu copper porcupine these copper ribs take the
heat but instead of dissipating heat from a CPU into the air I
take the
heat from the air into a cool plate connected to a heat pump.
As heat accumulates on the plate it is
taken off (say with cooled water), and thus sent to a cooling
unit elswhere or is pumped into an insulated heat storage unit.
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The copper porcupine is a good form factor for distributing heat from a point source. If you want a cold thing to take heat from a room you're going to need a big fan to circulate the air, pulling it into a Cold Place (tm) and only there it can have its heat extracted. |
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If you just make a porcupine cold not only will it get angry and possibly bite you, it will very quickly defend itself with ice from condensation from the water in the air. But even if it couldn't do that it wouldn't come into contact with enough of the air to be effective. |
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[+] for thinking about and attempting to reverse heat sink form factors. [-] for doing absolutely no research on the topic. |
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Edited for clarity. Thermodynamics obeyed. Could you Please
link to show the problem? |
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I think he thinks that you think your proposal would be as efficient at cooling a room as the reverse would be at heating a room. (or, if you like, at removing heat from the source) The problem physics has with that is heat always disperses. You can efficiently remove heat from a point source this way because heat flows from a point of higher to lower concentration. Unfortunately heat won't flow the other way: It won't collect itself from a room into a small heat sink spontaneously. To get heat to flow the other way you have to have active cooling. |
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If your heat sink is colder than the air temperature it will cool the air, but it will only cool the air that happens to bump into it and lose energy. To actually cool the room without a fan the heat sink needs to be much, much colder than the air. And if there's no moisture in the air that will pretty much do the trick, with the air churning from the temperature difference. |
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If you do use a fan and appropriate humidity-deal-withing widgets then you have an air conditioner. |
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I think the innovation here is the feather fan shape of the device. Everything else is widely known to exist. |
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The question then is whether a feather fan is more effective than the usual bladed / finned heatsink kind of design that devices like this usually have. |
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How about fashioning the heat sink into the shape of the blades of a traditional fan and spinning that? The heat transfer coupling might get wonky, but it seems possible. Hmm. If you use staged Peltier elements with non-moving parts you can spin the whole thing and only have to worry about fluid transfer on each side. Incorporate a different shape of blades on the opposite side where the "cold" liquid is and you only have the one moving part, aside from the fluids. Has this been done? |
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