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The idea is a wall socket that is actually the end of a long extension cord. The cord winds up, concealed right inside of the wall in a spring-loaded reel. So, if you need some extra cord, just pull on the plug and presto! your plug becomes an extension cord. The reel lets the cord come out, but wont
reel it back in unless you press a release switch that is exposed in the wall cavity.
The spring-loaded aspect to reel it in is about as strong as the one in a seatbelt design in a car, if not weaker. Its not really going to do the retraction work for you, itll just aid in retracting it while you guide it back into the wall. Nothing that would cause a whip action or make it difficult to pull out.
When the cord is completely reeled in, it looks just like a regular wall plug. I got this idea from an old Mad Magazine, I think.
Electrical outlet type extension cord reel with auxiliary outlet
http://164.195.100....00150&RS=PN/5700150 Sort of like this? [ldischler, Jan 27 2005]
Wall mounted receptacle with retractable extension cord
http://164.195.100....&Query=PN%2F5738548 Much closer... [ldischler, Jan 27 2005]
Wall mounted reel-type extension cord
http://jacksretail....xtensioncords.shtml You're half way there - now just mount it inside a wall. [Worldgineer, Jan 27 2005]
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I think I saw that in MAD, too - kinda makes it halfbaked, which means it's not an original idea, *dang*!. Is that hanford, as in foggy Hanford, CA? |
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Whoops, well I'm new here. I needed to add this becuase MAD treated it like a joke, but I think this would really be cool. And although I've never been to Hanford, yeah, it's Hanford as in Hanford, CA. That's a long story. |
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Just goes to show they need really long cords on lift extension sockets. |
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A great idea. Not every socket, just one per room. |
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Mind your feet, the cat, grandma when you reel this in. Nonetheless it could be useful. |
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I like this idea. Simple, useful and eminently do-able. |
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But, for sheer comedy value, the extension cords in your house should be linked to that of your neighbor. I forsee much Laurel and Hardy type hilarity ensuing when you both decide to do the hoovering at the same time, and end up in a flex tug of war. |
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I remember having an old vacuum cleaner once that had a spring based automatic cord retraction and storage mechanism. So this would be a lot like that except it would mount inside the wall instead of the machine. |
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I like the idea. Cost, reliability and simplicity issues aside, might there be a better solution than the progressively harder to pull spring based retraction mechanism? There's quite obviously an electrical supply at hand which could run a small motor. This arrangement could allow the cord to freely pay out when in use. From a safety standpoint, the mechanism could sense excessive load during retraction and release the tension to reduce incidents of accidental retraction related Fluffy strangulations. The motorized arrangement would easily permit regulation of the retraction speed to prevent the "rope burn" and whipping effect that I remember from the old vacuum cleaner cord. |
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alternative accidental retract
solution: the socket end has a ring
which you twist 90 degrees, which
opens a circuit in an additional
pair of wires in the cord. the motor
will only retract with the circuit
closed. |
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all told, excellent idea. |
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I'm not sure this would be accepted in the building industry - not as cheap, plus not actually as safe (although that's not the architects problem, but a design with added complexity such as this might suffer from damage in an uncontrolled manner if cheaply designed (and that's guaranteed - if a design can be made, it'll be made cheaper soon enough)). |
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On the other hand, it's funny - earlier today while ripping up foliage in the garden, I was minded for some reason of the old one from the tech support lists, about a 'blonde moment' where the caller couldn't figure out why the computer wasn't working, because it turned out that she'd plugged the four-way extension back into itself. |
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previously half baked or not, this is a stellar idea. |
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Hanford, I propose that you take it one step further, I've always found it stupid that we are forced to contend with immovable wall outlets and a few feet of cord on individual appliances or have ugly extention cords drapped all over and under things. |
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Redesign the whole mess, instead of having appliances plug into the wall outlet bits have the wall outlet bits plug into the appliance, then lock the cord at that length and blammo. |
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Thanks for the feedback everyone. I updated the idea with a section about the spring-loaded aspect to explain a little more about what I was thinking. |
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Actually, I think this idea has been baked already in my eighth grade home-ec class. Except the entire socket boxish unit thingie hung from the ceiling and was, itself, on a spring loaded cord with a mechanism similar to those generic white window shades that pull down. Or overhead projector screens for that matter. I think. I'm not really sure what I'm talking about anymore. |
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I think I'm going to bake this into whatever house I move into. |
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An eminently bakeable, idea - technically feasible, genuinely useful and the only question is why don't I have one? |
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I have needed one of these ever since I ripped the socket out of the wall (yes, the socket) by catching my foot on the vacuum cleaner cord. (Note to 'bakers around the world - UK plugs can't be pulled out by pulling on the cable, as the cable points downward as opposed to outwards.) |
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Actually, I needed it beforehand. |
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I ripped the socket out of the wall
too, a couple of years ago -
gardening with a lawn trimmer
(not a strimmer, ours is a 'Flymo'
device, not the 'Black & Decker'
which would be deserving of the
brand name 'Strimmer'). I still
think that the retractable idea
would have suffered in an
unpredictably unsafe manner if
(and it's still possible - unless you
can find elastic cable) the socket
assembly were to get ripped out of
the wall. I also think it's unsafe for
another reason - cables would
have a tendency to be under
tension, and would be more prone
to trip people up. |
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A problem with this idea is that if
you plug your high power device
into the socket and then don't pull
extra flex out of the wall you'll
then have a lot of power going
through a coiled wire, generating a
lot of heat (through inductance
and back emf) in your dry, dusty,
flammable wall void... Coiled
extension cords usually have a
warning on them that they should
be fully unwound before being
used with high power devices. |
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[hippo] beat me to it. I have a 2kw garden extension lead that has a notice saying that if you're going to use an appliance over 1kw then you should unwind the reel completely. I suppose you could get round this by having different breakers which are activated depending on whether the lead is fully extended or not. |
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Damn! I was going to post this idea. (+) |
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**Another One Bites the Dust** |
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I as well believe this idea is sound. The product already exists to some extent, there's a brand new product in a inclosed case with a breaker in 12 /18 ft lenghts. Currently the product is being market as the arctic leash (arcticleash.com) and used for block heaters on vehicles. I purchased one for my car and recalled reading this idea for the retractable wall socket and called the company to see if it could/would work in a wall. They told me that the arctic leash was designed with just this idea in mind and they our currently waiting on UL and CSA approval for new construction. So you see this was another great idea. |
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One of these days we'll have to build a list of ideas on the bakery that were subsequently baked in reality. I bet there are several hundred at this point. (WTAGIPBAN) |
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