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Efficient Gas Stove
Reduce convection losses in gas stoves and use the waste heat to heat the intake air | |
Gas stoves are the most popular cooking stoves around
the world. The heat from a gas stove is more
controllable than an electric hotplate. It is also cheaper
and usually more efficient (the in efficiency of an
hotplate comes from production and transmission losses
of electricity).
Yet a
gas stove is a very inefficient device in itself. The
inefficiency comes from the use of open flames in the
stove. The flame is essentially hot gases. The hot gases
are only able to partially transfer its heat to the cooking
pot. The rest is lost to the surroundings. This can be
easily verified by the fact that the surroundings of a gas
stove is significantly warmer than the surroundings of a
electric hotplate. The kitchen also gets uncomfortably
hot in warm climates.
The open flames of a gas stove is a significant
fire hazard. The exhaust from the stove may also
buildup dangerous levels of carbon-dioxide in a closed in
environment.
I propose an efficient stove design which keeps the
flames in a closed chamber. After the hot gases of the
flame heats the cooking pot, it is used to preheat the
intake air. The exhaust escapes through a chimney
which can be ducted outside to keep the kitchen cool and
safe.
Please follow the links for illustrations.The cooking pot
should make a
more or less good seal with the stove when the pot sits
on
top.
Thus the convection loss is stopped.
The stove has two chambers separated by a flower
shaped thin aluminum wall. The intake air enters
through the bottom of the stove and rises through the
inner chamber. The hot
exhaust travels down the outer chamber and
exits to the chimney. The suction of the
updraft in the long chimney helps the hot exhaust to
travel
down the chamber. A small fan on the chimney can help
start the
updraft. While the hot air is travelling down, it
exchanges
some of its heat to the intake air rising through the
inner
chamber. The large
surface area of the flower shaped wall facilitates the
heat exchange. The
outer wall of the stove may be covered with some kind
of
insulation to reduce heat loss.
As the intake air is heated as it rises through the inner
chamber, the convection current helps it move up wards.
The gas enters in to the burner located at the top of the
inner
chamber through a venturi and create more suction for
the
intake air.
The actual gain in efficiency is hard to reckon with out
lots of experimentation. This was supposed to be my
winter project. Never got
the
time to finish it. I built a model with candles and
aluminum
foils. It seems to work, but I never had the time to do a
controlled experiment. Feel free to try it yourself.
One
possible improvement idea is to have corrugations in the
flower
shaped
wall between the inner and outer chamber for better
heat
exchange.
The design was done in Solidworks. I can post the file on
request.
(cc)(science commons)
Stove top-trimetric view
http://www.postimag...mage.php?v=Ts18Qrar [kneeslider, Feb 01 2010]
Burner bottom view
http://www.postimag...mage.php?v=Ts18QSC0 [kneeslider, Feb 01 2010]
Burner top view
http://www.postimag...image.php?v=Pqwq7br [kneeslider, Feb 01 2010]
Stove bottom-trimetric view
http://www.postimag...image.php?v=gxSGhR0 [kneeslider, Feb 01 2010]
Inefficient Gas Stove
LPelletG_20Stove [normzone, Feb 02 2010]
Prior (halfbaked) art.
Fuel_20Efficient_20Stove Very similar, especially the heat exchanger part [goldbb, Feb 03 2010]
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hmm.. getting only fish bones. Why no comments? |
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You might be able to get more comments (or votes if that's what you're really after) with a bit of marketing. |
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Tell us how much heat is lost in a regular gas stove and how much more efficient you expect yours will be. What are other ideas that have been tried/suggested to improve the efficiency of a gas stove? |
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I like your illustrations, and am looking forward to more of your ideas. |
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Votes does not matter much (although croissants
taste good). But I really appreciate and enjoy
critical opinions, be that positive or negative. |
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I updated the post about efficiency losses in the
regular stoves and why my design should be
better. |
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If I knew the quantitative efficiency gain it would
have either been a baked or a charred project. I
have not experimented enough to make a
comment about it. |
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I have questions about the increased risk of scorching since the heat is concentrated over a smaller area at the base of the pot, one advantage of the open flame model is the hot air moving up the sides of the pot or pan, which also allows you to use pans with a larger surface than the burner area. |
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You would also have a risk that if your air supply was inadequate you could get a gas build-up which would flashover when the pot was removed. This one can probably be designed out, but it is a concern. |
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I don't know what all the negativity is about, this looks great. (+) |
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Couldn't you just cover the stove tops with a thin SS sheet, so you always have a seal and you could spread out the heating? I commonly use both a 6" diameter pot and a 12" diameter pan and would like even heating on both. Maybe leave one open for those with a Wok. |
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Sometimes fish are the mark of an excellently-described idea here, for god knows what reason. |
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I wonder what the efficiency of an old gas-powered cast-iron stove would be? |
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[MechE] Scorching may be prevented by using
different size stoves for different cooking pot
sizes- a 6 inch stove for pots of 6 to 8 inches, a 9
inch stove for pots of 9 to 12 inches. The burner is
almost the same size as the stove, so a cooking
pot of comparable size will not probably scorch.
Also thicker walled pots may be used. |
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I agree that flash over is a concern. Although,
intuitively I think it's unlikely. Large slots have
been cut out at the bottom of the stove for
intake air. Updraft should be strong enough to
create enough suction for the intake. But without
experimentation, I cannot say anything for sure. |
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[MisterQED] I actually came up with the idea when
I recently started using a hotplate. So at first I also
thought about covering
the stove top but abandoned it for several
reasons. |
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1) A covered top will always leave some air
trapped between the pot and the cover. This
reduces conductivity. (It is one of the reasons hot
plates take a lot of time to heat up a cooking pot,
but a induction heater of the same wattage does
much better.) |
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2) A covered top will require a flat bottomed pot. I
designed it primarily to be used in third world
countries where people mostly uses round
bottomed cooking pots. |
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3) I wanted to keep the production cost as low as
possible (possibly within 10 dollars) and also opted
for the simplest possible
design. If the top is not covered, the outer wall of
the stove may be built
from an aluminum pot. |
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