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You're a backup driver, one of millions on line at any
given
time. If the A.I of the car you're assigned randomly to
gets
confused, you and several dozen other drivers take over
control of the vehicle remotely.
Their control is averaged so if any one person tries to
steer
the car off
a cliff his movements of the wheel and pedals
will be counteracted by the group. This person would
also
never be allowed to drive again because the
appropriateness of their driving would be recorded and
guaged.
Now what's to stop everybody from getting together and
driving the car off the cliff? This assumes some good
human
nature but there would be other problems with that
plan.
The people have no idea who the other 20 or so drivers
are
so there's no way to plan any bad driving.
And what's in it for the remote drivers? You get to take a
virtual drive someplace you've never been before. Give
people with no life who just sit at a computer all day
something useful to do. You can play that video game for
the umpteenth time or actually help some rich person
driving through manhattan get a few Zs while being
driven
to their tennis lesson.
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Crowd-sourced decision making resembled a random walk more than purposeful gameplay, but the crowd succeeded eventually. [sninctown, Sep 20 2021]
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//Their control is averaged// |
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A child runs into the middle of the road. Half the drivers swerve
left, the other half swerve right. It doesn't turn out well. |
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Hmmm. Ok, legit, so there'd have to be an accomodation for
that. |
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But if it's basically a vote based on millions of samples per
second, what are the chances of billions of bits of
information from 20 different sources being split evenly
down the middle? |
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I'm pretty sure that, if I was rich, I wouldn't trust my safety
to millions of anonymous drivers. At any given moment, how
many of them are drunk? Consuming drugs? In a party
making bets on how many cars they can throw down the
bridge? Having sex (probably not many)? Generally not
paying much attention to what they're doing? |
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Like I said, they have no means to communicate with each
other or know who the other drivers are. They also are
carefully monitored and ranked. One mistake you never
drive again. |
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So if someone steps off the road just in front of your car
and 10 people decide to swerve left and 10 people decide to
swerve right, the system will take the average? |
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No, the system will take the average of the measurement
of
the various wheel measurements in real time broken into
tens of thousands of samples per second. |
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//But if it's basically a vote based on millions of
samples per second, what are the chances of billions of
bits of information from 20 different sources being split
evenly down the middle?// |
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Not sure how many samples you could get, probably not a
billion but close enough. |
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Enough samples that there's very little chance of it
splitting evenly, in which case just have a random number
generator pick one side. |
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Smart roads suggested was baked. Thanks a1. |
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//A child runs into the middle of the road. Half the drivers swerve left, the other half swerve right. It doesn't turn out well.// |
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They're all swerving. So if it does what the majority want it's going to be okay. |
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//Crowd-sourced decision making doesn't work in real-time, if at all// |
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Do you have evidence for that assertion? |
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//what's in it for the remote drivers? You get to take a virtual drive someplace you've never been before. Give people with no life who just sit at a computer all day something useful to do.// |
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You'll be able to get a hundred thousand globally if you somehow gamify it and advertise heavily. And they won't be on much on average. Otherwise you're going to have to offer incentives. There's a reason it's hard to design interesting video games. |
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Even if this isn't the best use for the new resource of
millions of people online looking for something to do,
that is a new thing. |
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If the human mind is power, never before have
billions of these things been out there just looking
for something to do. |
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//And what's in it for the remote drivers?//
Do it like Ender's Game: don't tell the players that it's real.
Just a really realistic driving game. |
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That could work. Make a driving game and insert sections of real world driving. |
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Might make the game a lot more interesting if you're driving
a real car. Or at least lending 1/20th of the control to a
moving car. |
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