h a l f b a k e r yYeah, I wish it made more sense too.
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I'm putting this up as a new idea because the original
one
was for a high tech version that has its problems, like
warning lights going off, indicators distracting the driver
etc. Inspired by the decidedly bad idea of having road
signs
basically saying "Don't Read This Sign Warning Of
Distracted
Driving Or You May Die".
This directs the driver's attention to the road and
changes
slowly and incrementally preventing the driver from
getting confused and
slamming on the brakes.
The representation shown is a foreshortened version, the
actual application would be over a much longer area and
perhaps with the horizontal stripes not being so wide.
I think this would be subtle preventing knee jerk
reactions of drivers that could be dangerous, and the
reading of them
would be intuitive such that people would slow down
simply because their perceived driving path has been
narrowed, if only by painted on markings.
I made a pic. (link)
ADDENDUM: To warn of an approaching crosswalk, the
lines progressively merge together until they form the
pedestrian crosswalk the driver needs to be aware of.
Dangerous stretch of road indicator markings.
https://www.dropbox...AD%20LINES.png?dl=0
The horizontal strips look a little like a sidewalk which you would stop for, but not so much that you would actually stop. [doctorremulac3, Jan 22 2019]
Proof that lines get attention and signify to slow down.
https://goo.gl/images/jdsBKe
Just started seeing these leading up to speed bumps. [doctorremulac3, Feb 28 2019]
optical processing of path
https://www.snopes....llway-stop-running/
Warping perception in more ways than one. [wjt, Jul 19 2020]
[link]
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I like this. The current system of signs, in the UK at least
doesn't really engage the brain on any fundamental level.
When you've seen "slow" written on the road for the 38th
time, you start to wonder if it's driving advice or an
indication of the mental capacity of the locals. What
might work better is simply massaging the dimensions of
the existing road lines. In tricky road sections, the lines
are often double-sold to indicate no overtaking. By
slightly widening and separating the lines, it would give
the impression of a narrower road. Similarly, the lines on
the outside could be thickened and moved in. Everyone
slows down when the road looks narrower. |
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// Dangerous Stretch Of Road Indicator Markings // |
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Could it be please be clarified if it is the stretch of road that is dangerous, or the actual indicator markings themselves ? Is it "Dangerous Stretch Of Road" Indicator Markings, or Dangerous Stretch Of "Road Indicator Markings" ? |
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If the indicator markings are the actual hazard, then the way to improve safety is merely to omit them, shirley ? |
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Neither. It's: "Dangerous Stretch" of road indicator
markings. |
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Meaning that only the actual indicator markings in
this
particular stretch of road are dangerous. Beyond
that
they're
safe. I didn't want to be redundant and say
"Dangerous stretch of dangerous road indicator
markings." I also thought "Dangerous stretch of
dangerous road danger danger indicator markings
danger." was a bit confusing so I shortened it a
bit. |
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Apart from all the accident debris, yes. |
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I missed this a month ago, somehow. Actually, I think there
are a lot of ideas from around that time I haven't read yet. |
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Re the new link: Around here we have similar markings on
some speed bumps, but the triangle is filled in (and
stretches all the way to the other side of the bump, IIRC)
and we don't have the transverse lines leading up to it. |
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Oddly enough, a study not so long ago showed that having no
road markings at all (for example, when a road had just been
resurfaced and not yet re-marked) considerably improves road
safety. People tend to think "Ah yes, white lines down the
middle so I needn't worry as long as I'm on my side" or "Ah yes,
I've looked at those warnings, so now I'm safe". |
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I think maybe people just drive slower because
they
don't see the guide markers. Like perhaps stop
lights
not working cause people to be more careful going
through intersections. |
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I know I like those dividing lines myself. When
you're
on a 5 lane highway and everybody goes into a
turn,
those lines are the only thing keeping people from
crashing into each other. |
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Anyway, I think I might suggest this now that I'm
seeing that there's intuitive realization that
pregressively intrusive lines into the car's path
signal it's time to slow down. |
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LOL, I just got the realization that I entertained
the idea of communicating with a big government
bureaucracy similar to the DMV about doing things
in a new way that might be better. What the hell
was I thinking? |
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That being said, these might also be useful as you
approach speed reduction signs, like going from a 45
MPH zone to a 25 MPH zone. Draw attention to the
speed reduction and have the new posted speed at
the end of the line pattern. |
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// people just drive slower because they don't see the guide
markers// Yes, that's the point. |
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Well, my point is that they'll drive slower when the
traffic lights aren't working too. Doesn't mean it's a
sustainably safer situation overall. I think they're just
seeing that this is an un-safe driving condition, a new
unmarked road, and driving
accordingly. |
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Got a link to the report? I should probably read it
before I disagree with it. |
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Say I agree with the signs. Moving forward, how do I
actually slow the zone road down? |
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^Hard one, politics, economics, red tape. Get a Kindergarten built?... Move a speed sign? |
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Looking at my old drawing, this could be used to
signify an approaching sidewalk. The lines
progressively merge together until they form the
pedestrian crosswalk the driver needs to be aware
of. Gonna add that to the title. Previous title:
Dangerous Stretch Of Road Indicator Markings. New
title: Dangerous Stretch Of Road Or Crosswalk
Indicator Markings |
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Better than the very first title of "Dangerous
stretch of
dangerous road danger danger indicator markings
danger." |
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// form the pedestrian crosswalk the driver needs to be aware of // |
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Sounds like a useful target indicator. Could there be a similar system for bike lanes ? |
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Crosswalks are great; they lure the victims into a false sense of security ... |
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