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YouTube is awash with videos of people making "Damascus"
steel swords and knives. Whether they are truly replicating
the ancient Damascus process is uncertain, but the results are
often impressive.
From swordsmithing, it is but a small step to sandwichmaking.
It follows, obviously, that there
is room for cross-pollination
between these two sister disciplines. Hence, the Damascus
Sandwich.
One begins by making a regular sandwich, using the filling of
your choice but, preferably, something which is extensible
such as peanut butter and jelly. Once the sandwich is
assembled, it is taken through a set of steam-driven rollers
which flatten and elongate it. The elongated sandwich is then
folded in half, and passed again through the same rollers. This
process is repeated approximately 10 times, resulting in about
2,000 layers of bread-bread-filling-bread-bread. Each layer
will be 15µm thick.
Finally, the fully-forged sandwich is sliced into fingers in
preparation for serving. The slices should be made at a
shallow angle to the bread, to better display the minutely
banded structure.
What [beanangel] said - there's a whole lot of lamination goes into a croissant.
http://www.youtube....=yw-4zNOYTjI&t=7m0s
[zen_tom, Feb 03 2019]
UK-based jelly similar to what they call jelly in the US
https://www.waitros.../099260-50611-50612
[hippo, Feb 07 2019]
https://www.waitros...97142-113420-113421
[hippo, Feb 07 2019]
https://www.waitros.../620319-88028-88029
[hippo, Feb 07 2019]
What's the difference between jam and jelly?
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3swxtj
NSFW joke [discontinuuity, Feb 12 2019]
The Sandwich sandwich
The_20Sandwich_20Sandwich
A halfbakery classic. [DrBob, Feb 13 2019]
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So, you're reviving a craft skill that was thought lost (well, everyone hoped it was lost) with the demise of British Rail ? |
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Their foodsmiths, trained from childhood with hammer and anvil, could produce snack foods with curled edges so hard that they could cut through granite with ease. At the end of every year, unsold ham sandwiches were collected and subsequently added to the blast furnaces for making new rails. But the proportions had to be small; the sandwiches were so hard that excessive amounts could make the steel so hard as to be brittle. |
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The first Mk. 1 tanks, built in 1915, were armoured with railway sandwiches, which accounts for their peculiar shape (necessitated by getting the triangles to tesselate efficiently) but although the crew protection was exceptional, the resultant fragments of incoming artillery rounds created an unacceptable hazard to nearby infantry. |
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I think I remember that croissants are lain flat. doubled,
pounded, refolded etc many times. |
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//demise of British Rail // To be fair, though, British Rail (a)
managed to run lots of trains approximately on time (b) had
actual buffet cars (c) did not charge exorbitant amounts
of money for the privilege of standing up for the entire
journey and (d) did not charge you five times more for failing
to buy your ticket online eighteen months in advance. |
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//lain flat. doubled, pounded, refolded etc // You may be
thinking of politicians. |
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The Mokume-gane process applied to different
types of cheese would be worth trying. In fact
most industrial processes translate well into food.
An early idea I posted on the HB showed how to
clean your teeth using your car, following a
suitable squashing and mulching session. |
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// managed to run lots of trains approximately on time // |
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If you reckon "on time" as "within a couple of days" ... |
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// had actual buffet cars // |
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... but no actual food ... |
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// did not charge exorbitant amounts of money for the privilege of standing up for the entire journey // |
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That's true, standing up for the entire journey was comparatively cheap, as was standing on a platform for hours waiting for a train that never turned up. |
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// did not charge you five times more for failing to buy your ticket online eighteen months in advance. // |
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... by the simple expedient of not having any discounted tickets at all. |
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[8th], it has taken ten years of broken promises, failed
timetable revisions, cancelled services and exponential fare
increases to make me look back fondly on British Rail. Don't
spoil this moment for me. |
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Sorry ... unfortunately, modern nostalgia's nowhere near as good as it used to be. |
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Other flattened/layered foods include: |
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Decorative gold leaf on food |
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multilayer candy jawbreakers |
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and, in a sense, those flat gel breath freshness strips. |
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I suppose if you want to do the folding right, it will come down to the leavening agent. Virgin blood in bread is more of a sausage. |
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Mmmm, Damascus Calzone... |
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Have they ventured into saltwater taffy? |
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If so, did they ever return? |
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//I’ve never heard of putting jelly in a sandwich.// I was
trying to capture the American market. They call jam "jelly"
there - it's absolutely insane. And if I tell you what they call
biscuits, you'll just fall over. |
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"Biscuits" are almost palatable compared to grits ... |
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// I was trying to capture the American market. // |
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Many would give you credit for your humane approach to the problem, but to be realistic for a moment, the kindest thing you can do is shoot it dead and put it out of its misery. |
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//I tell you what they call biscuits, you'll just fall over.// What about aluminium - don't they call this "aluminum"? and don't they call nuclear "newcular"? - then of course they have their capacity to make new idiot-speak words like "covfefe". You just have to laugh (an unknown sound there) and bring a translater - a turnip with a mouth cut in it will suffice. |
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I'm sure when he wrote "covfefe" he actually meant "cobgefe".
It's an easy mistake to make. |
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// a turnip with a mouth cut in it will suffice. // |
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Jeremy Corbyn's a qualified translator ? Who knew, huh ? |
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Aluminum is the original spelling, effing revisionists.
Don't you trying to change a good thing, that spelling
has gone platinum. Adding a pointless extra vowel
for the sake of having chemical monotony sounds
like something the French would do. |
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When you get around to adjusting molybdenum,
tantalum, and lanthanum, warn me first. |
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This is a pet peeve of mine. Rollers haven't been propelled
by steam for QUITE some time. |
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//robotic jig// Hey! My favourite dance move! |
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//Don't you trying to change a good thing// Much as it
pains me, to the core of my being, I have to admit that
[Rayfo] is not wrong. A lot of "American" spellings are
actually the original ones, including "aluminum". However,
in technical publications even in the US, "aluminium" is
apparently favo[u]red. |
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What's even more galling is that many "English" spellings are
in fact French-influenced (colour, honour, theatre), and the
Americans have stripped out the Frenchiness. Of course,
the English versions are correct by definition, but it's still
annouying. |
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//you'd basically end up with some kind of sweet starchy
nutty paste.// I'm not so sure. Most of the relevant
molecules (starch and gluten from the bread, peanutonium
from the peanuts) are quite large and shouldn't diffuse. So I
think you'd retain definite lamellarity. |
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Isn't this whole thing just a variation on baklava? |
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There are several swordsmiths who would disagree. And
they're not the sort of people you want a disagreement with. |
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No, you're forgetting the whole "Now, Monkey Boy, dance for us ! Dance !" thing. |
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However, in accordance with the universal Law of Conservation of Humour, a set of footwear, with smoke issuant therefrom, will remain. |
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It is a well known fact that, no matter what the magnitude of the weapon deployed against a specific victim, a pair of smoking boots is always left as evidence. |
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Well, if the wordsmith pulls a yellow-hot adverb out of the
forge and waves it at you, you might want to reconsider. |
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How's come no women ever balk at that gender-
biased term? |
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Random thought: If my child changes their sexual
identity, do I
become transparent? |
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Quite possibly, but love will see you through ... |
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//If my child changes their sexual identity, do I become
transparent?// |
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No idea, but that sounds like an interesting experiment, book
your child in for gender reassignment & check yourself out
in the mirror when it's done, let us know if it works. |
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//It is a well known fact that, no matter what the
magnitude of the weapon deployed against a specific
victim, a pair of smoking boots is always left as evidence.// |
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Actually magnitude does matter, If you check the footage a
bit more carefully (so.. frame by frame), you'll notice some
of those smoking boots are stock footage spliced in,
because they don't always get their deployed magnitude
right. |
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You can even see the hand that just placed the boots just
disappearing off out of frame in one of the shots. |
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I think a crisp baklava katana, fresh from the oven, would mollify
most swordsmiths. Also, it's broadly local to Damascus. Well, I
was thinking of an Iraqi recipe with syrup and cardamom instead
of honey and cinnamon, but that's close enough. |
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Mmm. Orange-blossom water. |
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It would have to be toxic honey. |
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The thick red stuff has hemes and strange carbon shapes. |
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While I am not going to insult British folks the way
some people insult Americans, I just want
[Maxwell] to know that there is a difference
between jam and jelly. Jelly is made from fruit
juices and sugar whilst Jam has whole pieces of
fruit in it.It’s not that Americans call jam jelly! |
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Hmm. Fair point, although whenever I've seen jam in the US
it has been called "conserve" (or somesuch). And the "jelly"
I've seen has been what I would call jam, albeit typically with
less fruit or more finely pulped fruit. |
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I think we, in the UK, call some sugar+fruit conserves 'jelly' that they would also call jelly in the US (e.g. see link). Other conserves, with more fruit solids we call 'jam', and the gelatine-based pudding that in the US is called 'jello' we call 'jelly'. At least the US English-speakers are using a different name for each thing, whereas we use 'jelly' for both a sugar+fruit conserve and a gelatine-based pudding. |
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That's because "jelly" is not a proper noun, but a reference to an intermediate state between solid and liquid, as is "gel". |
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Hmm. The only "jelly" that I've seen in the UK (other than
gelatine desserts, i.e. "Jello") is "redcurrant jelly", which is
transparent (red, obvs) and contains no fruit pieces. |
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Yes, the link I added was to Redcurrant Jelly. I've seen other 'jellies' of this type (blackcurrant jelly, quince jelly, medlar jelly) so I'd say it's a common enough usage of the word. |
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There was of course Jello Biafra of The Dead
Kennedys notoriety. |
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//I've seen other 'jellies' of this type// Yes, but not for
spreading on toast, shirley? There has to be a core of sanity
that we can all rely on. |
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Call me an anarchist, but I have recently enjoyed Quince & Medlar Jelly on hot buttered toast and it was delicious. On the other hand, my son likes home-made damson jam spread on thick slices of cheese...
I note in passing that the 'jam' layer of the composite laminate foodstuff (getting back to the idea topic) "Jammie Dodger" is really a fruit jelly and they should really be named "Jelly Dodgers". |
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[hippo] (dutifully, as requested) you are an
anarchist. |
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I'm rather partial to a slice of quince jelly with
some decent cheddar, or if pushing the boat out, a
dollop of Cropwell Bishop. |
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Thanks [zen]! - even if I'm only an anarchist in the relatively narrow field of fruit conserves, it's a start.
When you say "quince jelly", do you mean Membrillo? I would question whether that has the translucency and structural fragility required to be a true jelly. |
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//quince jelly with some decent cheddar// Strawberry jam
on slices of decent cheddar works too. |
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Devil's Breath Chilli sauce is better ... |
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// I'm only an anarchist in the relatively narrow field of fruit conserves // |
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Ahh yes, membrillo - though calling it that is a new
one on me. Apparently in Portugal, they call this
stuff "marmelada", from the Portuguese for quince
being "Marmelo". Our "marmelade" is likely a mutation
from this root. Every day a school-day. |
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As in "Every day, you get mocked and humiliated by your peers, have your lunch money stolen, get tied to the school railings in the rain, and are then inevitably persecuted and traumatized by a psychotic malevolent geography teacher ? |
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Either that or "Every day you mock and humiliate your peers,
steal their lunch-money and then persecute and traumatize
geography pupils." Circle of life, [8th]. |
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Except that geography teachers aren't "alive" in the sense that the word is normally used. "Undead" might be a better description. |
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After all, they have the stigmata; vicious, amoral, with an unquenchable thirst for fresh human blood, utterly indifferent to the suffering of their victims. Vampire bats (the real ones, that live in tropical forest) are likeable little things by comparison. They mat literally lap up your blood, and sometimes transmit rabies, but they don't make extravagant and unsubstantiated claims about how grateful you're going to be to them in a few years time, if that is you don't die screaming in agony first, or indeed contract rabies. |
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But if it weren't for your geography teachers, you
wouldn't
know to avoid Belgium. |
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At least they're not teaching some airy-fairy subject like
philosophy or religion. You know where you are with
geography. |
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You know how they say that all roads lead to Rome? |
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Well maybe really all roads lead to Damascus, it's just that
they start to go there, then turn away, then turn back, then
turn away... |
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Technically, [MB], it's only a circle when what goes around,
comes around. |
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Once we are folding & re-folding sandwiches with some degree of liquid filling, I feel we are inevitably heading in the direction of hippo's 'lunch slurry' as mentioned on wagster's classic Sandwich sandwich idea (link). |
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Ah yes, "The Sandwich Sandwich" - a classic idea. We need a way of linking to old ideas like this such that they are introduced in the style of a 'golden oldies' radio station DJ. |
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