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When I was about eight or nine years old, I read a couple of books
about UFO's, like "Flying Saucers and Other Mysteries of the Universe"
and a book by von Däniken. At night I was afraid to step out of
my bed in case the floor would have gotten rubbery and want to absorb me.
One thing common in a
number of UFO reports was that electricity went
haywire and generally disappeared. Street lights and TV's flickered
and went out. Car radios (undoubtedly AM radios at the peak of
UFO sightings) would crackle static and headlights would dim before cars
came to a full stop. This would put the motorist in a precarious
position, especially when a flying saucer approached, instilled a
feeling of doom and made the windshield hot.
Having a disabled car during a close encounter seemed undesirable to
me, so I decided that when I would grow up - something I imagined
would happen rather suddenly around age 15 or so, but in reality it
just began at that age and never ended - that when I would grow up I
would have a Car Without Electricity. This car has a diesel engine and
carbide headlights. No battery. It probably has a crank in front to
start it. In case a UFO might exist and zoom nearby. And I would still be
driving.
That is all the idea there is here.
...
I have grown up and I have a diesel car. The fuel injection is
controlled by electronics and I have learned to believe that
electronics can be sufficiently reliable. The headlights are electric
too and it has a radio. But if something would approach and I would
need to get away, there is a pair of rollerblades in the back.
Citroën Rosalie 10D
http://www.quaideja...eles/rosalie-diesel
This would be a nice car to start with. Now we need to upgrade to carbide headlights [jmvw, Nov 07 2006]
Carbide headlights
http://www.thegreatautorace.com/NYC.jpg
Thomas Flyer with carbide headlights in 1908 race around the world [jmvw, Nov 07 2006]
Dodge Razor
http://www.allpar.c.../dodge/scooter.html
[shapu, Nov 07 2006]
Car without electricity
http://www.thekidsw...product=3180&cms=57
[Ling, Nov 07 2006]
Prototype
http://jacksontechs...houtelectricity.jpg
[jmvw, Nov 07 2006]
stanley Steamer
http://www.stanleymotorcarriage.com/
[jhomrighaus, Nov 07 2006]
[link]
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heh heh. Diesel engine w/ pilot light. |
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You might consider a Dodge Razor. It has a foot scooter in the back [link] |
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Old Dodge diesel pickups from the 1970s had completely mechanical diesel engines with no electronics. These are often used around sensative radio telescopes, since spark plugs, alternators, and the like would interfere with the weak signals. |
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I found a car without electricity! Link. |
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[rasberry re-tart] I might not know how to look for that, but how do you start them? A hook up re-chargeable battery w/ a glo-plug? |
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Heck, I'm still not grown up and I was fifteen a very long time ago now. |
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But how can you have a solution to a magic problem, even a half-baked one? There's no way to field test it. |
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//There's no way to field test it.// |
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The problem should be caused by EMP, no? Take it to a military EMP test facility where they already do EMP vehicle survivability testing. |
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A more practical reason for this would be continued operation in the event of a nuclear / EMP attack - something that 'we' are already working on. The UFO thing could be billed as an added bonus, just in case. |
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//The problem should be caused by EMP, no?// |
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Nope, its caused by mind control |
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That's what we get for giving cars brains. |
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I think it would be EMP, or else ESP. Additional field testing can be done in farm fields near crop circles - the "technology" can also be used on tractors and harvester combines. |
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I posted a prototype. See link. |
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Good point, [zimmy]. I suppose they had some sort of starting motor powered by a battery, and maybe some kind of alternator to recharge the battery. In some old heavy-duty diesel vehicles, there was a small gasoline engine used as a starter motor until the main diesel engine warmed up. Of course, that wouldn't solve the problem of resisting the effects of an EMP. |
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What you want is a stanley steamer. see link |
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I think they DO use pilot lights on some diesel engines, but not for autos. |
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I like the steam idea, but diesel has the edge in efficiency (15% higher then gasoline) and throttle response. |
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Zimmy, I have to ask now. what is the function of that pilot light? |
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There is a simple way that many old diesel (and gasoline) engines were started, and it used small explosive charges, a bit like air start on a large diesel, but a fair bit rougher. |
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Watch the movie flight of the phoenix (the old one with that richard attenborough), they use explosive charges to first clear the cylinders, then start the engine. |
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For the life of me I don't know what they were called, and I have to imagine the engine would be set up specially for their use. |
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[jmvw], I admit - I don't know. I googled & saw some generators & water pumping engines had them. I assumed it was used for initial ignition. I am under the assumption that a diesel self ignites from heat once started & may be very wrong. |
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Oh, it looks like it's a name used for indicator light on generators (i.e. power on), not related to the function of the engine. |
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oops. If I could blush in text, I would. |
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By the way, does the vw stand for vw? |
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Just being reminded that at the time, those volks didn't like us volks too much. |
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