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Are you taking bits from a bonsai tree in the same manner as you would an un-bonsai'd tree, or |
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are you trimming a bonsai tree in a bonsai manner, then taking the substances you want from the trimmings. |
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Probably the latter. I suspect bonsai live a very long time. What about roots? Are they also trimmed or would that kill the tree. |
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ps: spellcheck post: last paragraph |
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I think the point about bonsai trees is that they are made to
grow extremely slowly. I can't imagine that this would be a
practical solution, unless you want homeopathic
quantities... |
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I don't really get it - you are saying that because collecting useful stuff off trees, can damage and kill the trees; So, in order to avoid this, we do it to smaller trees instead because, presumably, it doesn't matter so much what happens to them? |
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I think it would be a cool job to own a forest, and figure out ways to sustainably 'farm' trees for all of their natural goodness - the list of products* you could could gather from a 1 acre forest is immense, and if you used proper techniques, your management of said forest might actually get it to be more productive in 'green' terms as well. |
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* aspirin
charcoal
wood-gas
2/3 gunpowder (carbon and saltpetre)
fruits and berries
game
iron-gall ink
mistletoe
herbs
truffles
tannins
fungus
timber
wool (can you get goats or llama to inhabit forests?)
anyway, you get the idea. |
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Yes, you can do all that and more with a forest but then you have to own land which makes it unfeasible. As it happens, i own forested land in Bolivia but i have no way of doing anything with it. |
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[MB], maybe microscopic bonsai then? |
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bit difficult to fit all that into the yard... some are pretty picky about where they grow. |
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[FT], that would be to some extent wildcrafting or permaculture. You would be able to do more but there are a number of products there available from herbs and shrubs with no need for trees, or in other ways. |
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Aspirin - Filipendula ulmaria, Achillea millefolium and a whole lot of others. The problem with salicylates is finding plants without them in cases of intolerance. |
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Charcoal - wood is just lying about everywhere. Some of it's treated but not all. |
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Gunpowder - mostly from dung i think. Traditionally provided by digging up old floors. Soot is also everywhere. |
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Fruits and berries - berries available in a back yard. |
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Iron-gall ink - ink from soot and mucilage is better and easier to make, and won't eat through the paper after a few centuries. |
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Mistletoe - fair enough, but also widely available in an urban environment, |
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Herbs - these are seriously easy to find almost anywhere. |
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Truffles - not so much, but we have plenty of fungi growing in this house. |
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Tannins - seriously? They've got to be the most easily available complex organic compound on the land surface of the planet. Potentilla, roses, Achillea, raspberries, strawberries, blackberries ... no trees required. |
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Wool - nice if you can get it, but not sure about using camels. I reckon rabbits would be a better bet, since they're sort of bonsai camels (not taxonomically of course). |
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