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In the Badger to a Custom program, young people hoping to start families but lacking in a supportive cultural background to help them keep their families together, raise their children, and enjoy the simple things in life could apply for special temporary travel permits under the auspices of the Badger
to a Custom program as beneficiaries of the common good to observe the customs and celebrations of locals in foreign countries, then import customs that they deem fitting into their home lives upon their return, thus "Badgering to a custom". This will give children a multicultural upbringing which will lead to increased understanding of other people and other cultures which they are sure to encounter in the rapidly shrinking and integrating world of the future.
Like this?
http://mymultiplesc...ntary/ashkelon.html
Roman parenting skills. [MaxwellBuchanan, Apr 04 2007]
Pander
http://dictionary.r...com/search?q=pander
I shall be a lot more careful using that word now. [TheLightsAreOnBut, Apr 13 2007]
Swahili - Panda
http://research.yal...26SUBMIT2%3DLook+Up
There are a whole miriad of meanings depending on context. However, as you read through them, a certain common theme "arises". [TheLightsAreOnBut, Apr 13 2007]
Private Language
http://en.wikipedia...e_language_argument
"One compelling theory about language has it that words map to ideas, concepts or representations in each person's mind. On this account, the concepts in my head are distinct from the concepts in your head. But I can match my concepts to a word in our common language, and then speak the word. You then match the word to a concept in your mind. So our concepts in effect form a private language which we translate into our common language and so share." [hippo, Apr 13 2007]
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/In the Badger to a Custom program, young people hoping to start families but lacking in a supportive cultural background to help them keep their families together, raise their children, and enjoy the simple things in life could apply for special temporary travel permits under the auspices of the Badger to a Custom program as beneficiaries of the common good to observe the customs and celebrations of locals in foreign countries, then import customs that they deem fitting into their home lives upon their return, thus "Badgering to a custom". / |
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That's one mighty sentence. But what does it mean? |
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It means you have to learn how to root
about at night and behave like a
badger... It's dark now so I'm heading
out to try it. |
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I am pretty sure that, whatever [monK]
thinks "badgering" means, it doesn't mean
what he thinks it means. |
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I am making allowance for this when I say
that I still have no idea what on earth this
is about. |
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Travel makes you a better parent. |
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When you've been to Rome, do as the Romans do. |
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Imitation is the multiculturalest form of parentry. |
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//When you've been to Rome, do as the
Romans do.// Like this (link)? |
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Apparently that's okay, as long as the parents 'deem it fitting' to import that custom into their home lives. |
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I didn't post an anno on this when I first read it because I thought I was having a blonde moment. It's reassuring to know no one else understands it either. |
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Ok, [Texticle,] you don't know because you're a texticle.
I am down with whatever [xenzag] says, as long as he/she does not try to mess with me.
[MaxwellBuchanan] It can mean whatever I want it to mean. Good link too, except that it's ancient history, but I think you have the basic idea of my idea.
[imaginality] is just down like a blunt with yayo because he/she understands my concept, but for [MaxwellBuchanan]'s references to killing babies it would have been perfect.
BrauBeaton, you've always been cool, since the old days.
[wagster], I have always thought you were a fucking Golden Retriever and I am not kidding. How do you type?
[Lt_Frank] I got the idea from my parent, who has taken me to three foreign countries...At first I thought you were stereotyping me but now I think you're just talking about things you don't know. |
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I made up a one liner about the halfbakery:
"I must be a slut 'cause they bone the hell out of me every time and I keep coming back!" |
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sfhjksafhlkauhsdf lsadf fjkdosj; ajdsfl; |
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Yay [monk]. You are, like, shimpy with a
hat-field, boxy. |
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Wow, this reads like poorly written spam email. At least, the first couple sentences do. I didn't get much past that. By "badgering" do you mean bothering or harassing? And by customs do you mean cultural practices or the office you visit before crossing a border? Or maybe customized old hotrods? |
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Seriously though, I'm sure there are plenty of places in the world that will let you raise your children however you want. |
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you [rasberry re-tart] are absolutely, balls to the wall, nutters. |
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[MaxwellBuchanan], you're not so shimbledy rimbledy fish hat yourself. |
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[Monk] - It might help us to understand
you if you explained to us exactly what
you believe the verb "to badger" to mean. |
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So basically, you want an office to pay poor people so that they can go someplace else, raise their kids in a foreign country, and then when the kids are grown up, they can come back, and bring the cultural practices that they thought worked best? |
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OK, I guess I can live with that... but I'll have to ask where the money comes from before I vote. |
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//[Monk] - It might help us to understand you if you explained to us exactly what you believe the verb "to badger" to mean.//
Actually, I wasn't aware that there actually was a verb "to badger", but, uh, what I had construed it to mean for my purposes was something akin to "to subscribe to" "to adopt" "to assimilate" a custom.
//So basically, you want an office to pay poor people so that they can go someplace else, raise their kids in a foreign country, and then when the kids are grown up, they can come back, and bring the cultural practices that they thought worked best?//
Pretty close, yes. They don't raise their kids in the foreign country, though, they just go to the country, "badger to a custom", and bring the custom back for the betterment of all. |
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//I'm afraid I'm going to have to report this idea to the RSPCA and RSPCC.//
I don't know what that entails... So you have fun. |
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//Wow, this reads like poorly written spam email. At least, the first couple sentances do. I didn't get much past that. // There are only two sentences, you dumb shit. Moving on, I can tell from what you've said and how you've spelled it that you are in no position to be judging anyone's writing; please don't.
By badgering, I mean "to subscribe to" "to adopt" or "to assimilate" a custom.
By "customs" I mean cultural practices. |
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kind of - when in Rome, do as the badgers do. |
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I'd love to know where you get your meaning of "to badger" and I'm almost tempted to vote for the idea title even though the meaning escapes me altogether. |
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its a shame that the title distracts from the idea whatever that is because that seems a little curious as well. |
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[monk] the problem with this is that badger has nothing to do with what you take it to mean. it is defined in the dictionary as; |
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To harass or pester persistently |
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1. Any of several carnivorous burrowing mammals of the family Mustelidae, such as Meles meles of Eurasia or Taxidea taxus of North America, having short legs, long claws on the front feet, and a heavy grizzled coat.
2. The fur or hair of this mammal.
3. Any of several similar mammals, such as the ratel. |
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thats where the problem starts |
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Well, there's always this: |
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1. "To badger" - a UK colloquialism for passing gas. |
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Why is everyone so down on [monk]? I think it's a brilliant idea, expressed in an interestingly different manner, presumably derived from some exotic culture his parents have visited. Work on those meagre powers of comprehension, folks! It's not so hard to grasp really, once you discard your preconceptions about language. |
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//Why is everyone so down on [monk]? // of course, calling people *a dumb shit* is not a great way to make friends and influence people. |
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[po] Indeed not, but it doesn't look to me that he started it. |
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// It's not so hard to grasp really, once you discard your preconceptions about language |
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1. a body of words and the systems for their use common to a people who are of the same community or nation, the same geographical area, or the same cultural tradition: the two languages of Belgium; a Bantu language; the French language; the Yiddish language.
2. communication by voice in the distinctively human manner, using arbitrary sounds in conventional ways with conventional meanings; speech.
3. the system of linguistic signs or symbols considered in the abstract (opposed to speech).
4. any set or system of such symbols as used in a more or less uniform fashion by a number of people, who are thus enabled to communicate intelligibly with one another. |
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I guess I should discard my own preconception about language, that it enables people "to communicate intelligibly with one another." |
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Not a bad idea, badly expressed. (Ducks to avoid the anticipated sh*t flying his way from [monk]) |
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[TheLightsAreOnBut] Agreed 100%. I just prefer to say "expressed in an interestingly different manner" rather than "badly expressed", that's all 8~) - just my preference for a conciliatory tone... |
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//"expressed in an interestingly different manner"// read, bafflingly. |
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the whole point of language is that one can be understood by others. its hard enough when we are all reading from the same dictionary. |
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//"//"expressed in an interestingly different manner"// read, bafflingly."// |
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<i>Bangs head on floor.</i> |
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// Ah, I think I see the confusion. Both badgers and pandas are essentially monochrome animals with patches of black and white fur. |
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I am now really confused. There should be a word - maybe "langwedge" - that means... |
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4. any set or system of such symbols as used in a more or less uniform fashion by a number of people, who are thus enabled to communicate unintelligibly with one another. |
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Hmmm. Ian, were you trying to suggest that monk got confused and meant to say "Pander to a custom"? Interesting meaning to the word Pander (link). Also, interesting meaning to the swahili verb Panda (link). |
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I applaud your desire to see all happy but with 3 days on the site under your belt you might consider learning a little more about the bakery and its members before wading into the fray so enthusiastically. You likely to find yourself on the wrong side of an argument that you do not understand. |
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OoooooOOh! <raises black handbag> |
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[jhomrighaus] 8~) Thanks for the warning. Is it really so dangerous a place? |
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It depends - however, I think //It's not so hard to grasp really, once you discard your preconceptions about language.// should be [marked-for-tagline] it is no less than a piece of rare genius. |
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What does [marked-for-tagline] mean? |
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mft - no such animal but it refers to something being a candidate phrase for under ye olde croissant. |
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Well, that leaves me as wise as I was before. Croissant? French breakfast? |
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Ah. I get it now. Silly me. |
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[monk]'s use of "badger" to mean whatever he wants it to mean (sort of) proves Wittenstein's "Private Language" argument (see link. This is also expressed also by Lewis Carroll in "Alice Through the Looking Glass" when Humpty Dumpty insists that he can make words mean whatever he wants them to mean). |
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[Cosh i Pi] - See top left of this page for half-eaten croissant and tagline. Don't eat the other half, we need it to decorate the site. |
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Would that be 'Wittgenstein' hippo? |
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Yes. Proves my point really, doesn't it? |
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[wagster] Yup. I figured it out and edited my post just as you were writing that. Thanks anyway. |
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(ascends on to milk crate having been unable to locate a soap box) |
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No its not a dangerous place by any means but we are quite the eccentric group and in general highly intelligent and for the most part highly tolerant of others, but by the same token highly intolerant of those who make assumptions or attempt to exert control on the system.(please do not interpret this too mean that you have done any of these things in any way) I only commented from the perspective that I have seen others come here over my short time here and undertake to mediate between some of the old timers that did not end well. In my experience in life and here as well one has the right to have an opinion but rarely does one earn the right to question the motives of others until they have spent sufficient time cutting their teeth on the system. Your points are well considered and most clearly originate from the mind of one with the experience of years. [monk] never really seems to play well with others and incurring the wrath of [po] is not an experience one soon forgets. Though it appears that [monk] was attacked first the comments made are quite valid and not too out of line for what I might call the norm for a poorly presented idea([monks] been around for quite a while and knows the game). His reaction was less than desirable under the circumstances which [po] so elegantly explained. [monk] normally gets a little testy when his idea is not well received. Let the old timers beat on each other, they seem to enjoy it. |
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(descends from Milk crate and runs for cover) |
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(ponders) Thanks for that, [jhomrighaus] |
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//the wrath of [po]//
<snigger>
It's a bit like being repeatedly hit over the head with an extremely soft & fluffy cushion. |
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excuse me DrBob, I can do a lot of damage with a soft and fluffy cushion. |
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I was always a little sceptical about Dennis Healey's equanimity at the prospect of being savaged by a dead sheep, too. |
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[monk] concedes that it was poorly expressed. |
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// [monk] concedes that it was poorly expressed. |
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respect, [monk]. It engendered a lively conversation about the purpose and nature of communication, though, not to mention being the cause for a truly unforgettable tag line. |
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