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Badger to a Custom

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In the Badger to a Custom program, young people hoping to start families but lacking in a supportive cultural background to help them keep their families together, raise their children, and enjoy the simple things in life could apply for special temporary travel permits under the auspices of the Badger to a Custom program as beneficiaries of the common good to observe the customs and celebrations of locals in foreign countries, then import customs that they deem fitting into their home lives upon their return, thus "Badgering to a custom". This will give children a multicultural upbringing which will lead to increased understanding of other people and other cultures which they are sure to encounter in the rapidly shrinking and integrating world of the future.
—monk, Apr 04 2007

Like this? http://mymultiplesc...ntary/ashkelon.html
Roman parenting skills. [MaxwellBuchanan, Apr 04 2007]

Pander http://dictionary.r...com/search?q=pander
I shall be a lot more careful using that word now. [TheLightsAreOnBut, Apr 13 2007]

Swahili - Panda http://research.yal...26SUBMIT2%3DLook+Up
There are a whole miriad of meanings depending on context. However, as you read through them, a certain common theme "arises". [TheLightsAreOnBut, Apr 13 2007]

Private Language http://en.wikipedia...e_language_argument
"One compelling theory about language has it that words map to ideas, concepts or representations in each person's mind. On this account, the concepts in my head are distinct from the concepts in your head. But I can match my concepts to a word in our common language, and then speak the word. You then match the word to a concept in your mind. So our concepts in effect form a private language which we translate into our common language and so share." [hippo, Apr 13 2007]

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       /In the Badger to a Custom program, young people hoping to start families but lacking in a supportive cultural background to help them keep their families together, raise their children, and enjoy the simple things in life could apply for special temporary travel permits under the auspices of the Badger to a Custom program as beneficiaries of the common good to observe the customs and celebrations of locals in foreign countries, then import customs that they deem fitting into their home lives upon their return, thus "Badgering to a custom". /   

       That's one mighty sentence. But what does it mean?
—Texticle, Apr 04 2007
   

       It means you have to learn how to root about at night and behave like a badger... It's dark now so I'm heading out to try it.
—xenzag, Apr 04 2007
   

       I am pretty sure that, whatever [monK] thinks "badgering" means, it doesn't mean what he thinks it means.   

       I am making allowance for this when I say that I still have no idea what on earth this is about.
—MaxwellBuchanan, Apr 04 2007
   

       Travel makes you a better parent.   

       When you've been to Rome, do as the Romans do.   

       Imitation is the multiculturalest form of parentry.
—imaginality, Apr 04 2007
   

       //When you've been to Rome, do as the Romans do.// Like this (link)?
—MaxwellBuchanan, Apr 04 2007
   

       Apparently that's okay, as long as the parents 'deem it fitting' to import that custom into their home lives.
—imaginality, Apr 04 2007
   

       I didn't post an anno on this when I first read it because I thought I was having a blonde moment. It's reassuring to know no one else understands it either.
—wagster, Apr 05 2007
   

       Ok, [Texticle,] you don't know because you're a texticle. I am down with whatever [xenzag] says, as long as he/she does not try to mess with me. [MaxwellBuchanan] It can mean whatever I want it to mean. Good link too, except that it's ancient history, but I think you have the basic idea of my idea. [imaginality] is just down like a blunt with yayo because he/she understands my concept, but for [MaxwellBuchanan]'s references to killing babies it would have been perfect. BrauBeaton, you've always been cool, since the old days. [wagster], I have always thought you were a fucking Golden Retriever and I am not kidding. How do you type? [Lt_Frank] I got the idea from my parent, who has taken me to three foreign countries...At first I thought you were stereotyping me but now I think you're just talking about things you don't know.   

       Peace Out, Buddies!!!   

         

       []
—monk, Apr 06 2007
   

       I made up a one liner about the halfbakery: "I must be a slut 'cause they bone the hell out of me every time and I keep coming back!"
—monk, Apr 06 2007
   

       sfhjksafhlkauhsdf lsadf fjkdosj; ajdsfl;
—wagster, Apr 06 2007
   

       Yay [monk]. You are, like, shimpy with a hat-field, boxy.
—MaxwellBuchanan, Apr 07 2007
   

       Wow, this reads like poorly written spam email. At least, the first couple sentences do. I didn't get much past that. By "badgering" do you mean bothering or harassing? And by customs do you mean cultural practices or the office you visit before crossing a border? Or maybe customized old hotrods?   

       Seriously though, I'm sure there are plenty of places in the world that will let you raise your children however you want.
—discontinuuity, Apr 08 2007
   

       you [rasberry re-tart] are absolutely, balls to the wall, nutters.
—monk, Apr 08 2007
   

       [MaxwellBuchanan], you're not so shimbledy rimbledy fish hat yourself.
—monk, Apr 08 2007
   

       [Monk] - It might help us to understand you if you explained to us exactly what you believe the verb "to badger" to mean.
—MaxwellBuchanan, Apr 08 2007
   

       So basically, you want an office to pay poor people so that they can go someplace else, raise their kids in a foreign country, and then when the kids are grown up, they can come back, and bring the cultural practices that they thought worked best?   

       OK, I guess I can live with that... but I'll have to ask where the money comes from before I vote.
—ye_river_xiv, Apr 09 2007
   

       //[Monk] - It might help us to understand you if you explained to us exactly what you believe the verb "to badger" to mean.// Actually, I wasn't aware that there actually was a verb "to badger", but, uh, what I had construed it to mean for my purposes was something akin to "to subscribe to" "to adopt" "to assimilate" a custom. //So basically, you want an office to pay poor people so that they can go someplace else, raise their kids in a foreign country, and then when the kids are grown up, they can come back, and bring the cultural practices that they thought worked best?// Pretty close, yes. They don't raise their kids in the foreign country, though, they just go to the country, "badger to a custom", and bring the custom back for the betterment of all.
—monk, Apr 12 2007
   

       //I'm afraid I'm going to have to report this idea to the RSPCA and RSPCC.// I don't know what that entails... So you have fun.
—monk, Apr 12 2007
   

       //Wow, this reads like poorly written spam email. At least, the first couple sentances do. I didn't get much past that. // There are only two sentences, you dumb shit. Moving on, I can tell from what you've said and how you've spelled it that you are in no position to be judging anyone's writing; please don't. By badgering, I mean "to subscribe to" "to adopt" or "to assimilate" a custom. By "customs" I mean cultural practices.
—monk, Apr 12 2007
   

       kind of - when in Rome, do as the badgers do.   

       I'd love to know where you get your meaning of "to badger" and I'm almost tempted to vote for the idea title even though the meaning escapes me altogether.   

       its a shame that the title distracts from the idea whatever that is because that seems a little curious as well.
—po, Apr 12 2007
   

       [monk] the problem with this is that badger has nothing to do with what you take it to mean. it is defined in the dictionary as;   

       transient Verb   

       To harass or pester persistently   

       It also means   

       Noun   

       1. Any of several carnivorous burrowing mammals of the family Mustelidae, such as Meles meles of Eurasia or Taxidea taxus of North America, having short legs, long claws on the front feet, and a heavy grizzled coat. 2. The fur or hair of this mammal. 3. Any of several similar mammals, such as the ratel.   

       thats where the problem starts
—jhomrighaus, Apr 12 2007
   

       Well, there's always this:   

       Verb badger   

       1. "To badger" - a UK colloquialism for passing gas.
—discontinuuity, Apr 13 2007
   

       Why is everyone so down on [monk]? I think it's a brilliant idea, expressed in an interestingly different manner, presumably derived from some exotic culture his parents have visited. Work on those meagre powers of comprehension, folks! It's not so hard to grasp really, once you discard your preconceptions about language.
—Cosh i Pi, Apr 13 2007
   

       //Why is everyone so down on [monk]? // of course, calling people *a dumb shit* is not a great way to make friends and influence people.
—po, Apr 13 2007
   

       [po] Indeed not, but it doesn't look to me that he started it.
—Cosh i Pi, Apr 13 2007
   

       // It's not so hard to grasp really, once you discard your preconceptions about language   

       From Dictionary.com:   

       1. a body of words and the systems for their use common to a people who are of the same community or nation, the same geographical area, or the same cultural tradition: the two languages of Belgium; a Bantu language; the French language; the Yiddish language. 2. communication by voice in the distinctively human manner, using arbitrary sounds in conventional ways with conventional meanings; speech. 3. the system of linguistic signs or symbols considered in the abstract (opposed to speech). 4. any set or system of such symbols as used in a more or less uniform fashion by a number of people, who are thus enabled to communicate intelligibly with one another.   

       I guess I should discard my own preconception about language, that it enables people "to communicate intelligibly with one another."   

       Not a bad idea, badly expressed. (Ducks to avoid the anticipated sh*t flying his way from [monk])
—TheLightsAreOnBut, Apr 13 2007
   

       [TheLightsAreOnBut] Agreed 100%. I just prefer to say "expressed in an interestingly different manner" rather than "badly expressed", that's all 8~) - just my preference for a conciliatory tone...
—Cosh i Pi, Apr 13 2007
   

       //"expressed in an interestingly different manner"// read, bafflingly.   

       the whole point of language is that one can be understood by others. its hard enough when we are all reading from the same dictionary.
—po, Apr 13 2007
   

       //"//"expressed in an interestingly different manner"// read, bafflingly."//   

       If you insist! 8~)
—Cosh i Pi, Apr 13 2007
   

       vive le conciliateur!
—TheLightsAreOnBut, Apr 13 2007
   

       <i>Bows.</i>   

       <i>Bangs head on floor.</i>
—Cosh i Pi, Apr 13 2007
   

       // Ah, I think I see the confusion. Both badgers and pandas are essentially monochrome animals with patches of black and white fur.   

       I am now really confused. There should be a word - maybe "langwedge" - that means...   

       4. any set or system of such symbols as used in a more or less uniform fashion by a number of people, who are thus enabled to communicate unintelligibly with one another.
—TheLightsAreOnBut, Apr 13 2007
   

       Hmmm. Ian, were you trying to suggest that monk got confused and meant to say "Pander to a custom"? Interesting meaning to the word Pander (link). Also, interesting meaning to the swahili verb Panda (link).
—TheLightsAreOnBut, Apr 13 2007
   

       [Cosh i Pi]   

       I applaud your desire to see all happy but with 3 days on the site under your belt you might consider learning a little more about the bakery and its members before wading into the fray so enthusiastically. You likely to find yourself on the wrong side of an argument that you do not understand.
—jhomrighaus, Apr 13 2007
   

       OoooooOOh! <raises black handbag>
—theleopard, Apr 13 2007
   

       [jhomrighaus] 8~) Thanks for the warning. Is it really so dangerous a place?
—Cosh i Pi, Apr 13 2007
   

       It depends - however, I think //It's not so hard to grasp really, once you discard your preconceptions about language.// should be [marked-for-tagline] it is no less than a piece of rare genius.
—zen_tom, Apr 13 2007
   

       Thank you. I think.   

       What does [marked-for-tagline] mean?
—Cosh i Pi, Apr 13 2007
   

       mft - no such animal but it refers to something being a candidate phrase for under ye olde croissant.
—po, Apr 13 2007
   

       Well, that leaves me as wise as I was before. Croissant? French breakfast?   

       Ah. I get it now. Silly me.   

       Definitely thanks.
—Cosh i Pi, Apr 13 2007
   

       [monk]'s use of "badger" to mean whatever he wants it to mean (sort of) proves Wittenstein's "Private Language" argument (see link. This is also expressed also by Lewis Carroll in "Alice Through the Looking Glass" when Humpty Dumpty insists that he can make words mean whatever he wants them to mean).
—hippo, Apr 13 2007
   

       [Cosh i Pi] - See top left of this page for half-eaten croissant and tagline. Don't eat the other half, we need it to decorate the site.
—wagster, Apr 13 2007
   

       Would that be 'Wittgenstein' hippo?
—DrBob, Apr 13 2007
   

       Yes. Proves my point really, doesn't it?
—hippo, Apr 13 2007
   

       [wagster] Yup. I figured it out and edited my post just as you were writing that. Thanks anyway.
—Cosh i Pi, Apr 13 2007
   

       (ascends on to milk crate having been unable to locate a soap box)   

       [Cosh i Pi]   

       No its not a dangerous place by any means but we are quite the eccentric group and in general highly intelligent and for the most part highly tolerant of others, but by the same token highly intolerant of those who make assumptions or attempt to exert control on the system.(please do not interpret this too mean that you have done any of these things in any way) I only commented from the perspective that I have seen others come here over my short time here and undertake to mediate between some of the old timers that did not end well. In my experience in life and here as well one has the right to have an opinion but rarely does one earn the right to question the motives of others until they have spent sufficient time cutting their teeth on the system. Your points are well considered and most clearly originate from the mind of one with the experience of years. [monk] never really seems to play well with others and incurring the wrath of [po] is not an experience one soon forgets. Though it appears that [monk] was attacked first the comments made are quite valid and not too out of line for what I might call the norm for a poorly presented idea([monks] been around for quite a while and knows the game). His reaction was less than desirable under the circumstances which [po] so elegantly explained. [monk] normally gets a little testy when his idea is not well received. Let the old timers beat on each other, they seem to enjoy it.   

       Welcome to the bakery!   

       (descends from Milk crate and runs for cover)
—jhomrighaus, Apr 13 2007
   

       (ponders) Thanks for that, [jhomrighaus]
—Cosh i Pi, Apr 13 2007
   

       //the wrath of [po]//

<snigger>
It's a bit like being repeatedly hit over the head with an extremely soft & fluffy cushion.
—DrBob, Apr 13 2007
   

       excuse me DrBob, I can do a lot of damage with a soft and fluffy cushion.
—po, Apr 13 2007
   

       I was always a little sceptical about Dennis Healey's equanimity at the prospect of being savaged by a dead sheep, too.
—Cosh i Pi, Apr 13 2007
   

       [monk] concedes that it was poorly expressed.
—monk, May 08 2007
   

       // [monk] concedes that it was poorly expressed.   

       respect, [monk]. It engendered a lively conversation about the purpose and nature of communication, though, not to mention being the cause for a truly unforgettable tag line.
—TheLightsAreOnBut, May 09 2007
   


 

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