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The idea here would be to have an Auto-
Testament mode that would record a
scriptural description of your actions
when
playing a God game. Ideally, this could
be
illustrated with illuminated text and
screen
captures if you wanted it to be fancy and
it
could mirror challenges from the
game
with sections in the book.
Okay, that's cute, but not
necessarily
cool in itself. What I think would be great
is the fact that your "good book" would
be
filled with distortions, confusion over
your
intentions and wrong conclusions.
Remember, you're a God. Sure, you can
smite things and do other things, but I
don't think in most games you come out
and just tell your worshippers what to do
and not to do.
So, they'll make assumptions.
Sometimes they might be right (if you
smite someone for doing something
obviously bad), sometimes they might be
horribly wrong. Say you are bored and
you
smite a random person walking by the
shore. This could be turned into a
commandment against eating oysters, a
condemnation of his family line into
slavery, or it could not be noticed at all.
Similarly, events that are not your doing
(say, a volcano erupting) could be
interpreted as signs of divine will or
intent
in your testament and lead to things like
human sacrifice, a ban against playing
the
bagpipes, or nothing at all either. I think
it would be interesting if something
seemingly straightforward in your mind
got transformed into a radically different
commandment, and I think a touch of the
absurd (admonitions against the color
blue, religious requirements to grow
cabbages) would be best.
So that's my silly first idea.
Obviously, it would require a bit more AI
intelligence in trying to guess intent and
modelling behavior... but if it were
entirely
realistic, sensible, and feasible it
wouldn't
be here anyway...
slightly related
ReCreationals
[theircompetitor, May 12 2005]
The God's Must be Crazy
http://andy.pudmenz...must_be_crazy_1_&_2
[Klaatu, May 18 2005]
[link]
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I wonder what you would have to do to make it come out the way it did. |
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This had better have a plethora of "thee"s and "thou"s. |
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This is a pretty awesome idea.[+] Could there be several scripture pulling from the same god? I mean, if we're going to attempt accuracy... |
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Or, have mulitplayer mode, and everyone has different powers, and see how closely the scriptures can deduce the interplay. |
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I want a "send son" button, and leave it on autofire!!! |
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And lo! On the twelfth day of May a new star appeared in the firmament of the demibakery and it's name was HarrisJ. The bakers cried "See! It portents of a new form of game which shalt include Testament Generation. And that game shall be more interesting than the games that came before, yet without detraction from the gameplay." and there was much rejoicing and singing and offerings of bread. |
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//if it were entirely realistic, sensible, and feasible it wouldn't be here anyway...// Pretty much the reason why I joined, welcome to the 'bakery. |
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I love this idea, it would make a great multiplayer, so how would people know that you existed, eg, if a person was smited by the seaside as you suggested, people would just think that he went out for a swim and drowned, or something, or maybe even someone else would be held resposible, so how about appearing to the primordial people above a well and let them build temples etc in your glory? |
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Would there be extra points depending for how close you get to imitating an existing culture, or one long past? Or maybe the reverse, as in how far away from any religeon current or otherwise you get? Eg, you make your people believe that one day your child will be born with purple and yellow stripes. |
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Wow, I REALLY want this. Nice job on your first idea. Welcome to the 'bakery. + |
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I think this wouldn't be too dificult to integrate into current game technology. There is already feedback in the form of economic and social change, as well as general denizen mood meters. All you would need is a good writer (I'm thinking Neil Gaimen) and some random number generators... |
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<mel brooks> "I BRING YOU THESE FIFTEEN" ... |
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"um... TEN COMMANDMENTS!" </mb> |
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did I mention that this is brilliant and I want it? + |
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I'm smitten. have been for years... |
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mind you, he is a sinner :) |
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Why thank you everyone. I appreciate the
feedback. One thing I forgot to mention is
that the game should allow you to get your
book in a nice little PDF format so you can
print it up and rant about its teachings to
strangers in the subway. |
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For that I will give you a second (sadly metaphorical) bun. |
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Another silly idea is that the Auto-
Testament mode could become a
gameplay challenge in its own right
(rather than an amusing byproduct of
gameplay). The result is a bit of clumsy
cosmic charades. I mean, imagine if you
were given the task of telling your
worshippers they should do something
like "letting a field lie fallow for a year
after several harvests" or even "don't eat
pork", but all you have by way of
communications are smitings,
earthquakes, eclipses, or other big
showy things to try to say something
subtle. That's an exercise in patience
and frustration I think (kinda like the
game Lemmings...) |
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If you're curious, the whole idea was
inspired by the lunacy when some bad
natural disaster happens and someone
claims it's a message from God. To
which I always thought that maybe God
should consider email or TV or faxing
or sky writing... |
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Today's reading is taken from the BOOK of ERRATA, chapter 3 verses 1-26: |
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3.1 Contrary to Our Prophet's words in the Previous Edition, blessed are the Mink, for they shall inherit the Earth. We apologize to anyone whose behaviour was affected by this Error. |
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3.2 And lo, the Lord sent a Great Flood, and said to Noah, Bring forth two of every kind of animal EXCEPT PEOPLE. Of which I do NOT want you to save EIGHT. Good grief. |
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3.3 And the Flood was a way of saying, Keep the Noise Down. |
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3.4 And the Fireworks to celebrate the Tower of Babel went a bit Wrong, too. Sorry about that. It is the Word of the LORD that you put a Lightning Conductor on the next one. |
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3.5 And the Lord said, take the blood of a lamb and make it into Black Pudding. Do not use it as Paint. |
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3.6 And the Lord sent a vast number of Frogs, that the Israelites and Egyptians could Feast together on FROG'S LEGS and live peaceably together. |
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3.7 And he made the River Nile to run with RED WINE. If anybody had bothered TASTING it. |
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3.8 And the LORD saw that Moses looked a bit CHILLY, so he set a bush on fire that he may be WARM and CONTENTED with his lot as a humble shepherd. Thus spake the LORD: Well, that all got a bit out of hand, didn't it? |
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3.9 And later, in the temple, the LORD spake to his priests and pharisees, and said, these lightning bolts are tricky to aim. |
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2.10 And the LORD spake unto Job, and said: Sorry, did you say your name was JOB? Really? Not JEB, then. Not even as a middle name, Job Jeb something? Ah. Oh dear. |
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3.11 Pharoah called Jacob to him, and said, I dreamt that there were seven fat cows and seven thin cows, and the seven thin cows ate the seven fat cows but became not fat themselves, but remained thin. What does this dream mean?
And Jacob, being blessed in the sight of the LORD, spoke wisely and said, Great Pharoah, eat no cheese before you go to bed. |
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3.12 And Jacob Atkins went forth and said unto the People, I have an idea for a diet. |
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Welcome to the HB, by the way, fantastic idea.Must stop now before I really do hit verse 26. |
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You will be a fantastic baker. I wish I could give this more croissants. |
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////if it were entirely realistic, sensible, and feasible it wouldn't be here anyway...// Pretty much the reason why I joined, welcome to the 'bakery.// |
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I disagree. I like to see ideas that are all that, here at the bakery. And there are plenty. |
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Is there any way for the scriptures to reflect the player's hipicritical actions, tally them up and actually publish both (or more) of their "standards" so they contradict each other. |
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Excellent. + from me. Creative, plausible and inobvious. |
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And the Lord spoke, "And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply" |
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Thus, mathematics was born. [+] |
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Great, now I'll never crack the top ten.
And the lord Afro Assault said, "venture ye forth, and destroy all thou shalt see, for explosions are in the path of salvation."
And it came to pass that the explosions waxed strong, and many Shakespeares did explode.
And the multitudes, bearing heavy explosives, did look to the sky and cry out,
Father! O Father! The land hath been wrought dry with fire, how shall we survive?
And the lord Afro Assault said, "not my problem. Sorry." |
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But why stop there? After the game is done and the testaments are generated, the game should flash forward 2,000 years or so to the New Testament, where you as Creator try to rectify all the damage done in your name. Or more likely, switch it off and laugh over the auto-Testament with your friends. |
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Welcome to the bakery. (WTAGIPBAN) |
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[moomintroll] I'm a born-again Christian, and your anno had me in stitches. I'm not quite sure if that was appropriate on my part... hilarious. |
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Do not eat from the berry bush (smite)
Do Not eat from the berry bush (smite)
DO NOT EAT FROM THE BERRY BUSH (SMITE, SMITE)
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Priests:"God forbids us to eat from the berry bushes"
Scientists: "That is utter nonsense. It has been scientifically proven that berry bushes are poisonous for your health". |
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back in high school, my fantastic
calculus teacher ended up in the
hospital and they gave us a very inept
substute. His explanations and
comments were so surreal that we
wrote them down and published them
in chapter and verse at the end of the
year. |
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Our scriptures: The book of Perkins,
Roger I |
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Substute: {sub'-stoot} adj. the state of being less than astute. |
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For the most part I avoid video games like the plague - but I want to play this one. Sign me up. |
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Jesus, my son would like this! |
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// the whole idea was inspired by the lunacy when some bad natural disaster happens and someone claims it's a message from God. //
A relative of mine did a study of this. His subjects thought there were playing a computer game, but the points they earned were completely random. Nevertheless, all of them developed some theory of the game. Some of them (prophets, lucky ones) would share their insights with others (neophytes, unlucky ones). Had this gone on long enough, a savior would’ve appeared. |
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This game reminds me of the movie "The Gods Must be Crazy I & II" <link>. |
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I regret I have but only one croissant to give this idea. If it is ever baked, I will be first in line for a copy. |
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<shuffles in with math sub story>
Mr. Mortenson (8th grade Algebra teacher) was sick for a week, so we had a sub. She was an older Asian woman with a thick Japanese accent. We were learning about polynomials that week.
When Mr. Mortenson came back the following monday, he didn't understand why we thought it was so funny to refer to them as "pahreenomeeurs." |
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//(admonitions against the color blue, religious requirements to grow cabbages)//
A Nugganite, I take it? |
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Wow, how did I never notice this idea? |
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If this could be integrated into, say, a football management game, one could, at the end of a glory-laden score of years in charge of a previously lowly club, print out the auto-generated "Autobiography of a Manager" and leaf through it, reminiscing about players dropped, bungs taken and victories over Everton. Obviously, the Autobiography extension pack should have a "bitterness & bile" setting ranging from "I'd like to thank everyone" to Ian St John. |
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Anyway, apologies for the churn, but this is a fabulous idea, and [moomintroll]'s fairly non sequiturial anno is tremendous. |
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Excellent (+). Sim-Prophets in the game who correctly predict your random whims should have churches named after them. |
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Of course, you should be able to read the developing testament as time goes by, and have the option at some point, to manifest yourself in human form so as to get to know your flock, and in so doing, become better able to explain previous actions, fundamental truths, and lay down a few general guidelines, in terms of parables and the like (a far more subtle form of communication when compared to thunderbolts, climatic disasters and forest fires). |
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All of this bit would be performed in a sub game, at the end of which, you'll be set upon by the people of your creation who will then nail you to something. |
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//PDF format// Also, shouldn't there be some kind of PTF standard? |
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This is an absolutely fantastic idea. Could you apply it as well to questing type games? Say, have a minstrel compose an ode or an epic poem? |
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