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A pike with an archery bow built in about 5 feet from the
bottom that can be either pivoted to fire at the optimum
angle or statically attached so the whole pike would be
tilted
to the optimum firing angle.
This would allow the soldiers in ancient armies to be
both
archers and pikemen,
loosing their arrows at the enemy
then
attacking with their pikes.
Plus it's a bassoon.
Scratch that... ten foot tall tuba. Reeds would be too
hard to manage on the battle field.
Arrowpike
https://www.dropbox.../Arrowpike.png?dl=0
Improved with trident, cymbals and bassoon. Pretty snazzy banner too. [doctorremulac3, May 21 2019]
Adding sound to this weapon of conquest
https://www.youtube...watch?v=ouJDvdg7EZI
Here's a big flute. Pretty scary sounding. [doctorremulac3, May 21 2019]
Big trumpet
https://www.youtube...watch?v=j7Xxo--n_xM
[doctorremulac3, May 21 2019]
This is the sound I'd want.
https://www.youtube...watch?v=7xRAbmudTkg
Getting a bit unpractical though. [doctorremulac3, May 21 2019]
War Tubas
http://www.douglas-...MS/ear/ear.htm#japn
Built by the Japanese ... [8th of 7, May 22 2019]
Wikipedia: Republic XF-84H Thunderscreech
https://en.wikipedi...-84H_Thunderscreech
Mentioned in my anno. Loudest aircraft ever built. Could be heard 40 km away when running on the ground. Nausea, headaches, seizures, and knocking-down were caused by the sound alone. [notexactly, May 27 2019]
This is what it would sound like.
https://www.faceboo...el/1156078249419479
[doctorremulac3, Nov 07 2024]
Better illustration
https://www.dropbox...yu&st=03oiyj36&dl=0
[doctorremulac3, Nov 10 2024]
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Are you envisaging the bow running at right-angles to the
pike, to form a sort of a cross? I'd expect that asking the
arrow to travel along the length of the pike would be
problematic. |
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Of course, you could always use the pike as a sort of long
longbow. |
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If this was a good idea, it would have been done. |
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Archers need to maximise upper-body mobility and flexibility, so wear little or no armour. They use a stand-off weapon, so they don't need it anyway unless it All Goes Horribly Wrong. |
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Pikemen wear armour and helmets. They also typically carry swords. They fight at close quarters. |
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The technology, equipment and tactics of pre-modern warfare was evolved in the unforgiving environment of battle. Anything that gave a marginal advantage was pounced on and used. |
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Archers are highly trained troops and it makes no sense to risk them in close quarters fighting. At Agincourt, as at many other battles, the good guys carried stakes as well as their bows to hammer into the ground as a defence against cavalry. |
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It's like aircraft carriers. The sword and shield of an aircraft carrier is its air group. Anything that detracts from that weakens the weapon. Air and anti-ship defence is best performed by escort vessels. |
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If an archer carries anything beside his bow, it should be extra arrows; and without constant practice, a pikeman will be a very indifferent and ineffective bowman. |
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Firing a bow doesn't really do anything to help launch the projectile. |
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No, but being hit by a two metre length of burning wood can spoil your whole day. |
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I don't think they're that easy to light? |
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Not if you give the mission to Light Infantry ... |
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//Are you envisaging the bow running at right-angles to
the pike, to form a sort of a cross?// |
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Sort of. Here's what this would feature. |
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1- You could have a reasonably accurate angle of fire
since the pike would be heavy enough to be hard to hold
at any angle other than vertical and you could turn the
bow inclination to marks on the pivot point. This would
allow a group commander with an angled measurement
scope device of some
kind to call
out the inclination to the entire group so all the arrows
could fall in the same area. |
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2- It would fold perpendicular to the pike for hand to
hand battle. |
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3- It makes every soldier an archer. They should all be
highly trained in all aspects of the latest tools of combat
or they have no business taking to the battlefield. |
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As far as designated archers being highly trained sissy
boys who run
and hide when the real fighting starts, I'd trade them all
for real men and train them in all aspects of the
arrowpike with assurances that the future, and all these
lands will be theirs as the weak of body and mind, those
of narrow vision and focus are swept aside as we, the
vanguard of humanity, the keepers of science and logic,
law and justice,
the warriors of progress... TAKE CONTROL OF OUR
DESTINY AND THE DESTINY OF ALL LUCKY ENOUGH TO
FOLLOW US INTO THE FUTURE AND TO VICTORY!!!!! |
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Plus after the battle you could use it as a spit and have a
nice barbecue. (OK, got my caps lock unstuck, sorry about
that.) |
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[doc], you still have your underpants on your head, and there's a fleck of spittle on your chin. Also, more practice with the "MUHWHAHAHAHA ! YOU FOOLS ! I'LL CRUSH YOU ALL ! " needed. |
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// They should all be highly trained in all aspects of the latest tools// |
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Military specilalization is a long recognised and absolutely essential technique. |
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//you still have your underpants on your head// |
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That's actually a bronze helmet, but I now understand
why you've been complaining about how uncomfortable
your underwear is. It's important to differentiate between
the two. |
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Not so sure we need to be that specialized in an age
where we're just poking each other with sharp sticks. |
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This glorious tool of world conquest (although not sure
why anybody would want to conquer a world where
people in high society crapped in a bucket to show how
fancy they were) ... where was I? Oh yea, this tool of
world conquest would maximize manpower. The addition
of the bow and a quiver of arrows is not much weight to
add to a soldier carrying a 20 pound pike with another 20
pounds of armor. |
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I've also improved the design. It's heavier, but has a skid
on one end and a strap so you pull it behind you instead
of carrying it until you're ready to use it. I've increased
the weight to about 30 pounds and added a trident
feature to the kill area is wider. It also has a belt with an
extension on one side onto which the soldier rests the
pike when he's charging. |
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The heavy trident would be almost impossible to turn
away with a shield as you get a 30 pound pike with a 120
pound man behind it running at full speed the only smart
move is to run. At which point the Rumulon3 warrior
raises the pike into arrow mode and fires at the fleeing
foe. |
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My army would be well practiced in changing modes:
pre-battle air barrage, close, charge, reconfigure and
snipe and then repeat: close, charge, reconfigure and
snipe until the enemy is defeated. |
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I'd throw battle banners on them too. Gotta look good
when you're conquering you know. |
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Hmm. These should make a horrifying sound too. Cymbals
that crash as the troops march maybe. Ohh, horns. These
things are shaped like huge bassoons, you'd get a good
solid bass note from it. |
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10,000 arrowpike bassoons being blasted as the army
comes
over the hill. The message would be clear: run. |
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Scratch that, it's a ten foot tall tuba. Reeds would be too
hard to manage on the battle field. |
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I think we've discussed this before, the long lost art of
being
scary and making your enemies run away, which is
ironically
a kinder, more humanitarian way to do battle. |
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Take these old sound gathering aircraft detection
systems, smack a 500 watt amplified 48" sub, sub, sub
woofer on each of those suckers and get that brown note
going in
the enemy ranks. |
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We won't discuss the brown note. |
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// a kinder, more humanitarian way to do battle.// |
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Are you aware that the beastly Huns used almost those exact words to justify their attack using Chlorine gas at Ypres in 1915 ? |
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Well, I would say you'd have to take that up with the
beastly huns. Avoiding hurting the other guys is a
better approach to conflict. Killing them by burning
their lungs with poison gas doesn't exactly sound
humane. |
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By the way, this might have actual practical
application in a movie or TV show like Game Of
Thrones. Not a fan of the latter, tried to watch an
episode, got about halfway through. |
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Doesn't this suggest that the Thunderscreech [link] should be
put into production? When you hear its sound, you'll
probably run away not out of fear of the plane's weapons,
but out of fear of being hurt or killed by the sound itself. |
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Found exactly what these would sound like. (link) |
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I think the pike section would separate from the bow and sound making system when going into battle. I'd keep the cymbals though because they could act as a shield. |
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So what I'd like to do is have an AI video of these going into battle. I'll post the results if I actually do anything with this. Just a silly little hobby project. |
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