Culture: Fireworks
chocolate fireworks   (+15)  [vote for, against]
sweet 2-stage rockets

more fulfilling firework displays involve two stage explosive fireworks.

say, 15 feet into the air the lower stage is ejected along with its payload of chocolates in shiny coloured foil & deposits them gently (they each come with little paper parachutes) to the “ahs!” and “ohs!” of the party folk below.

the upper stage of the rocket shoots into the heavens as per normal with huge highly charged bangs and booms and great blinding globes of sparkling stars.

mmmmm <drool>
-- po, Apr 24 2004

Air Cannon http://www.aclassact.com/cannons.htm
All told, I think you'd be much better off using an air cannon to launch the chocolate, and leave the fireworks till later. [DrCurry, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 05 2004]

water rockets http://129.11.68.16/~knapp/rockets/
[2 fries shy of a happy meal, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 05 2004]

Glow in the dark origami paper. http://www.opane.com/orcranglow.html
Almost posted this [2 fries shy of a happy meal, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 05 2004]

Cybercandy http://www.cybercan...rod?ltrev=31&xlc=77
Reviews of Hershey's

If you want to buy a scorpion coated in white Belgian chocolate, look at the 'Extreme' section of this site. [hippo, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 05 2004]

Chocolate http://www.kidztown...savers_chutes.shtml
Watch the popular Hershey's candy characters parachute across your screen! [Worldgineer, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 05 2004]

Candy Bottle Rockets http://www.jamesyawn.com/micro/
Do not eat. [Worldgineer, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 05 2004]

Hotel Chocolat http://www.hotelchocolat.com/cx1/
Deliver chocolates to any worldwide door. Simply the best, IMHO [jonthegeologist, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 05 2004]

Chocolate Society http://www.chocolate.co.uk
[hippo, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 05 2004]

Fireworks that drop parachutes http://www.hamcofir...Screamin_Eagles.jpg
Childhood fun back when childhood was fun. [Bamboo, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 05 2004]

Exploding Chocolate Bombs http://www.cucinadi...o/Product_5992.html
Party table centrepiece that explodes showering the table in sweets! [prufrax, Nov 21 2004]

the ultimate idea combining [po]'s favourite things...

<sensible head on> am a little worried that this might encourage children to return to fireworks to retrieve the chocolates. </sho>
-- jonthegeologist, Apr 24 2004


my father let me play with live fireworks but most dads are more sensible.
-- po, Apr 24 2004


[jtg] ...everything except cats. Strange.
-- hippo, Apr 24 2004


have to keep the cats in on firework night, hippo!
-- po, Apr 24 2004


... goes away to try and conceive a cat:chocolate:firework idea.
-- jonthegeologist, Apr 24 2004


jon, behave! conceive your own babies!
-- po, Apr 24 2004


"Hey, those fireworks didn't go off!"
"It's OK, those are duds - chocolate-covered Milk Duds."
-- FarmerJohn, Apr 24 2004


Won't the little paper parachutes go on fire when you set off the fireworks? No worries; a 15 foot drop won't damage the chocolates much. Also good for even distribution of chocolate at childrens parties ( and, for that matter, growed-up parties ).........mmmmm..chocolate rain, falling slowly enough not to hurt............(+)
-- blueturtle, Apr 24 2004


hmmm a pyro's pinyata sound like fun. probably not for the little kids though, but it might be safer then blindfolded kids flailing bats all over the place.
-- dead man waiting to happen, Apr 24 2004


If the fireworks were to go higher, then the second stage would have longer to fall before having to deploy parachutes.

If the fireworks were big enough you could shower an entire crowd with bits of chocolate. The only problem is the possibility of showering the crowd with bits of flaming firework instead. Still, I doubt it happens that much, and a rain of flaming chocolate would be pretty funny.
-- RobertKidney, Apr 25 2004


I think "Rain of Flaming Chocolate" would be a good name for a rock and roll band.
-- krelnik, Apr 25 2004


This wouldn't work because fireworks should never be fired off over the crowd. I saw a woman taken to hospital with severe burns to her face from a flaming fragment that struck her.
-- waugsqueke, Apr 25 2004


the first stage is chocolates, the 2nd stage is well away from the crowd...
-- po, Apr 25 2004


I'd like a Flaming Chocolate Cherry Bombe.
-- ldischler, Apr 25 2004


so would I! excuse my nibble.
-- po, Apr 25 2004


I was going to say...for two.
-- ldischler, Apr 25 2004


// the first stage is chocolates, //

In order to have the first stage descend on the crowd, you have to shoot the fireworks over them. One dud or misfire would be very bad.
-- waugsqueke, Apr 25 2004


waugs. dear! the rocket has to ascend from the party at some point - you detonate it in connecticut and I will watch in London. lets be grown up about this...
-- po, Apr 25 2004


po, perhaps you should do some reading about pyrotechnics safety before you ask me to be grown up about a idea for throwing chocolate from fireworks.

Overlooking the fire danger hazard for a moment - it's dark (or else you wouldn't be shooting off fireworks) and people are looking up.. so yeah, let's drop small things they can't see. Good plan.
-- waugsqueke, Apr 25 2004


and your suggestion for a safe solution is????

not sure if there is a safe solution to a fireworks problem but after seeing a photograph of a dismembered leg on a photograph from Iraq I don't think I give a toss! this is the hb after all - get a life!
-- po, Apr 25 2004


Explodes in your mouth, not in your hand...?
-- DrCurry, Apr 25 2004


do you want a flake with that DrCurry?
-- po, Apr 25 2004


po: If you've got an ice cream, yeah. They don't do 99's over here. Also, I share waugs' reservations about mixing fireworks and candy: you're much better off using streamer technology to launch the chocolate from an air cannon. But you do get my croissant for the chocolates descending on little parachutes.
-- DrCurry, Apr 25 2004


As for fireworks being fired over a crowd, one of the reasons for new year / hogmanay celebrations being cancelled in Edinburgh this year was because the wind would have caused most of the fireworks to explode over the crowd.

Then again how generous is a large firework display going to be? Free chocolates as well? ...

Assuming this idea is intended for smaller fireworks parties I am all for it (with slight caution). I predict new Halloween games alone the lines of dunking for apples but catching chocolates in the mouth from the sky. I just hope I don’t get the one that ignited on it's decent and is now going to burn my mouth...
-- afrocelt, Apr 25 2004


// and your suggestion for a safe solution is???? //

Do something else.
-- waugsqueke, Apr 25 2004


How 'bout if you had 2 different angles/mechanisms set to go off at the same time? So the chocolates blow out over the crowd out of a bazooka-like thing, while the explosives go off at a safe distance?
-- lintkeeper2, Apr 25 2004


Pyrotechnics+Chocolate gets my vote.
The problems are flaming mayhem from the launch and raining melting chocolate that can't be seen at night so why not have a multi stage water rocket [link] which has smaller explosive packages that would only detonate as the stages separated at a safe altitude from the crowd. The problem of not being able to see the little chocolate parachutes could be solved by making the chutes from glow in the dark origami paper. [link]
-- 2 fries shy of a happy meal, Apr 26 2004


How about an explosive Pinata?
-- PainOCommonSense, Apr 26 2004


Mechanical fireworks would be appropriate for situations where you want to detonate them over crowds. A mini-trebuchet fires the parcel of chocolates over the crowd; The jerk of the parachute opening triggers a spring-loaded mechanism which distributes the chocolates over a wide area.
-- hippo, Apr 26 2004


I see two options to get this to work. The first is [lint]'s solution - very elegant, but will have to be carefully planned. Add glow-in the dark parachutes or change the parachutes to autogyros and have them generate enough electricity to light up LEDs on the tips of cardboard propellor blades.

The second option would be anti-fireworks. Use water rockets in the daytime and instead of exploding with sparks at the top use colored biodegradable inks.

Oh, and however you do it invite me. +
-- Worldgineer, Apr 26 2004


Some good solutions to the issues I mentioned.

But couldn't one just bring their own chocolate? It's not like it's hard to get or anything. I'm not sure why so many are drooling over the idea of chocolate from heaven.
-- waugsqueke, Apr 26 2004


I don't think it matters too much what you're showering on people. As long as it's pleasant, people like to be showered with things - balloons at parties, candy at parades or from pinatas, water at sea-based amusement parks, etc.

[po], perhaps popcorn might be a good option. It would be self-parachuting and would require less volume to lift up as long as you pop it on it's way up (using heat transfered from the rocket).
-- Worldgineer, Apr 26 2004


Overall, I'd say this is a bad idea...it would be so much easier to buy a bag of chocolate on your way to the fireworks display. You may disagree now, but you won't be when you're at the hospital having a Hershey's Kiss surgically removed from your eye. It might be less fun, but if I'm not mistaken I'm not in kindergarten anymore. But while we're on the subject, I'd say that they best way to have the chocolate disconnect from the rocket is to have it connected by a string, and have some kind of mechanism that breaks the string at a certain point in the ascent.
-- Pocketassreturn, Apr 26 2004


I don't know about cat: fireworks: chocolate, but air_cannon: long_string_of_wrapped_chocolates: helium_balloon is shaping up as a real crowd pleaser.
-- dpsyplc, Apr 26 2004


i don't quite understand [Pocketassreturn]. first they get quite sniffy about chocolate in the eye despite po having included parachutes in the idea, then they suggest another freefall chocolate method. somehow, i don't think things dropped from strings fall any slower than those dropped from a cardboard tube.
-- stilgar, Apr 27 2004


!Love it, love it !. You could use spring charged wings, similar to rogallo wings, that open on release, gliding to the ground. Makes smaller packing and will be harder to catch. I don't think that shooting fireworks over people is so dangerous, you should see Valencia's fireworks (Fallas). Hardly more tan five or ten casualties every year. Croissant.
-- finflazo, Apr 27 2004


The "chocolates" could be made of special temperature resistant candy, something like sugar mice, or perhaps a sweet that caramelises on the way up (as mentioned above). As to speed of descent, the sweets can be made in the form of sycamore seeds, whirring gently to the ground to be caught in the open mouth. Time of descent can be matched to specific heat capacity to ensure that the sweets are cool long before they reach the ground, much as would be done in a shot tower. If the firework itself is timed to explode as the sweets approach the crowd, then your visibility problem is also taken care of.

Course, wind direction could mean they end up drifting over the local pig farm. But on the whole, this gets my slowly descending croissant.
-- egbert, Apr 27 2004


//I'm not sure why so many are drooling over the idea of chocolate from heaven.//

Oh dear, waugs! I think that that's the saddest thing I've ever read.

However, I am also against the idea. Not because of the danger to the crowd from the explosives, which is probably minimal (the parachutes are likely to drift crowd-wards without the need for firing rockets over peoples heads) but because a rain of free chocolate is likely to create a bit of a disturbance and you really don't want crowd trouble at a fireworks display.
-- DrBob, Apr 27 2004


I like the whole concept, but I don't think I'd want to eat chocolates which have been exploded,singed, floated through air pollution, grounded, stepped on...
-- dentworth, Apr 27 2004


//You may disagree now, but you won't be when you're at the hospital having a Hershey's Kiss surgically removed from your eye//

I've never considered Hershey's to be proper chocolate. I'm sure this is just my snobbish English attitude showing through, but every time I've been to the US I've realised again how much your chocolate sucks!
-- hazel, Apr 27 2004


Hershey's is rather clay-like in texture, but I don't mind the taste. How does the snobby English chocolate differ? Bitterness, fat content, texture, richness of flavor, mouth feel? Never had any that I know of.
-- half, Apr 27 2004


The Hershey's has a nasty texture and doesn't taste as creamy or chocolatey as UK chocolate - and I mean your common or garden bar of Dairy Milk or such like, rather than the expensive stuff. Perhaps more research is needed?
-- hazel, Apr 27 2004


I enjoy fireworks and really enjoy chocolate, but combined like this--I'm not so sure.

[po] I suggest you do some focus group testing by taking a couple of bags of chocolates to the next available fireworks show, tossing them over the crowd and measuring their reaction.

I think we're justifiably too suspicious of taking candy from strangers to accept chocolates from an unknown source. I'd be more concerned about accepting chocolates decorated with gunpowder residue from their launch. <aside> Would you like those chocolates smoking or non-smoking? </aside>
-- RooneDitoff, Apr 27 2004


"Perhaps more research is needed?" Sounds like my kind of project.
-- half, Apr 27 2004


The reason Hershey's tastes different from, say, Cadbury's (not that Cadbury's is very good chocolate) is that Hershey's is made with sour milk. It's just how Americans are used to having their chocolate taste.
-- hippo, Apr 27 2004


half: I'll help.

If it proves to be too dangerous using a firework launch then launch them so that they rain down a few seconds after the firework goes bang. If the chocolates cannot be seen descending on their parachutes then they could be made to glow or be side-lit with blinkered spotlights.

Whatever problems stand in the way, it would be a shame to lose this lovely idea by not trying to overcome them. Thanks, po. +
-- st3f, Apr 27 2004


Well, let's see -

15 feet?!? Not high enough for a dispersal, unless your cheering children don't mind getting 3rd degree burns.

Also, as waugsqueke says, you can't shoot them over the crowd, anyway.

Now, if it were to disperse the chocolates in the main explosion... NOW you're talking.
-- turner, Apr 27 2004


You're joking, but may have stumbled onto something. There are little airplanes you can attach to model rockets. When the rocket reaches it's apex the plane detaches and flys around for several minutes before landing. If you can control the course and add a chocolate payload, you'd be able to fly a few dozen over the crowd.
-- Worldgineer, Apr 27 2004


// I think that that's the saddest thing I've ever read. //

Well we all have our priorities, good doctor. If you're going to drop something from fireworks, how about cash?
-- waugsqueke, Apr 27 2004


Philistine!
-- DrBob, Apr 28 2004


..and dogs to chase them.
-- skinflaps, Apr 28 2004


(links) (and yes, the HB came up first in my search for _cat parachute_)
-- Worldgineer, Apr 28 2004


I am a pyrotechnc maniac, ok so lighting illegal fire works isn't exactly pyromaniac but I do love me some fun such as hand held botle rocket wars, so i think that the chocalate rocket should be a personally bought thing with those willng to attempt the choclatey wonderful goodness that might misfire, or better yet make it a stand rocket with a remote. So you could build it and then enjoy a choclatey treat!
-- The Dark Lord Chuckles the Silly Piggy, Apr 28 2004


This chocolate rocket...it would be launched from somewhere near Cocoa Beach?
-- half, Apr 28 2004


Hershey's is a vastly inferior chocolate product. In fact, American chocolate is a poor, waxy substitute for the finer chocolates of Europe and/or South America. Sigh. And a flake can still make my day. Tasty little buggars. Only costs a dollar fifty at the import store.
-- k_sra, Apr 28 2004


You would be surprised at who would agree with that statement (at least one former CEO of Hershey's, for example, who prefers Cadbury's, which Hershey's makes under license in the States). But it's like Coke vs. Pepsi - most people prefer the chocolate of their childhood.
-- DrCurry, Apr 28 2004


[DC] is right - it's all about your childhood. I've found some support for my assertion (see above) that the taste of Hershey's comes from it's use of sour milk from the excellent Cybercandy site (see link).
-- hippo, Apr 28 2004


I'm fairly certain Hershey's was my childhood chocolate. I am equally certain that it is inferior to other makes and models.
-- k_sra, Apr 28 2004


I'm currently accepting samples for taste testing...

(btw - sour milk isn't an unusual ingredient in cooking)
-- half, Apr 28 2004


it's the memory that the food envokes which helps us define whether we like it or not. In which case, many Americans may prefer the taste of Hershey's, simply because (as DrC rightly points out), it reminds you of your childhood.

Likewise, many of us are probably not drinking a certain drink, or eating a certain foodstuff, simply because of a unpleasant memory associated with it.

For what it's worth, I'd take a UK chocolate over an American any day... but the best in the world must be Belgian.

However, for chocolate lovers everywhere (and this thread rather suggests there are a good few), [hazel] and I would recommend www.hotelchocolat.com, who will deliver the finest chocs to your door. See linky.
-- jonthegeologist, Apr 29 2004


Also recommended is The Chocolate Society who have a shop in central London and also deliver
-- hippo, Apr 29 2004


chocolate, fireworks & a family sized coke within an hour or £5 off your bill ? great stuff!
-- po, Apr 29 2004


Is there any truth in the urban legend that there is enough energy in a mars bar to (in theory) allow it to propel it self out of the earths atmosphere? My guess is that it's weight would be reduced as it is burnt (by some arbitrary weightless, frictionless, 100% efficient chocolate burning rocket engine (with a caramel turbo charger). Any crude Newtonian estimates would be appreciated.
-- PainOCommonSense, May 04 2004


is it fried in batter?
-- po, May 04 2004


If it helps I am willing to spend the extra 10 mins frying to get this little guy intergalatic.
-- PainOCommonSense, May 04 2004


Sweet! +
-- ghillie, May 11 2004


For the gentle readers, there could be people dressed in colorful costumes resembling exploding fireworks that simply hand out chocolate when the explosions begin.
-- simple124, May 11 2004


Oh, I think that's probably a very sane and lovely idea, [simple]. In fact, if I had a fireworks costume I'd be wearing it right now...
-- k_sra, May 12 2004


kids would love this... sweeties dropping from the sky. \what else do kids like? hmmm... puppies!... bunny rabbits!... Brittany Spears! Great get them all strapped to rockets..now!
-- etherman, May 12 2004


[Link] They basically already have these only they drop army men instead of chocolate. No one played with these things when they were kids? Changing it to chocolate is not a bad idea at all. +

Is everyone forgetting that people have legs? Back the kids away from the firing area, fire the works off at a medium heigth straight up in the air, and let the children run to the parachuting candy. (Won't work for city firework or other large scale displays because the watchers are nowhere near the launch area)

Note: Worked at an illegal fireworks warehouse for the 4th of July rush a couple years when I was a teenager. Aside from the pay, you got all the fireworks you could stuff in your car on July 5th. 75 shot Thunder Kings destroy the neighbors when lit off at 2:00am.
-- Bamboo, May 12 2004


All who would disparage Hershey's chocolate, I can only say this:

There is a point where chocolate can become a little *too* chocolatey, creamy, sugary sweet, etc., and most of the chocolates you compare the Hershey's milk chocolate bars to are guilty of this, in my opinion. It takes merely one or two bites of that stuff to make me sick to my stomach, it's so sweet and creamy and chocolate- concentrated. On the other hand, Hershey's reaches a happy medium. But of course, it's always possible that the Hershey bars sold in *other* countries are not at all the same as Hershey bars in the United States. I'm told this is true of imported beers and cigarettes, so why not?

I don't think I'd trust any chocolate made in South America (shivers). I realize we owe them for cocoa in the first place, but that's about all I can say.
-- Size_Mick, May 12 2004


what size? Mick! too much chocolate?
-- po, May 12 2004


Kids would be dissapointed in the ones that explode on the ground. ++
-- sartep, May 12 2004


perhaps a mechanism that fires the first stage up in the air.
-- po, May 13 2004


now multiple "warhead" chocolate distributing fireworks...could work give me an hour or two on the works CAD station.
-- engineer1, May 13 2004


"There is a point where chocolate can become a little *too* chocolatey..."

Why, no, there isn't. There just isn't.

k_sra: Hershey's aside, some of the best chocolate in the world is made in the US. Look it up, you might be surprised.
-- bristolz, May 13 2004


America seems intent on convincing the world it loves nasty food. I have eaten some lovely cheeses made here so why did they choose the worst plastic variety to name 'American Cheese'?
-- stilgar, Aug 17 2004


My dogs are scared of fireworks, but they like sausages. And cheese. Perhaps you could supply your fireworks with a variety of optional contents for scattering? In this way the chocaholics can fill them with chocolates but I could fill them with bits of sausage. And cheese. Then over a period of time my dogs would come to associate the firework display with the shower of (presumably warm) sausage. And cheese. Then they might become less frightened of fireworks.
-- dobtabulous, Aug 17 2004


they are very sensible to be scared of fireworks. keep all pets indoors out of harms way.
-- po, Aug 17 2004


American cheese is not nasty. "American Cheese Product" and "American Cheese Food" and "American Cheese Spread" are not the same thing as "American Cheese." The others are made of oil and crap - - like margarine. Don't believe the hype, Sietch Naib.
-- contracts, Aug 17 2004


Why do I always encounter that virulent yellow sealant shortly after hearing "American Cheese" then? The supermarket sells French cheese, British Cheese etc. and "Domestic Cheese". American cheese only seems to refer to some stuff that hardly resembles cheese, Chaumas indeed. Also, what's wrong with the cheddar? Some of it is cheddar but the most popular stuff is orange and almost as bad as the plastic shite.
-- stilgar, Aug 20 2004


Nice.

Only forseeable problem is the possible combination of gunpowder with edible stuff.
-- cloudhedd, Aug 20 2004


Mmmmm.... Hot chocolate rain. + all over again.
-- Worldgineer, Nov 09 2004


just missed Guy Fawkes night - dammit.
-- po, Nov 09 2004


Missed churning? Or missed the night altogether? It hope it wasn't the latter - Blackheath was lovely!

Oddly, no one seemed to come up with health and safety concerns over 'Psychoactive Fireworks', but these little beauties got all sorts of objections? Light the blue touchpaper and stand back open-mouthed, I say. [+]
-- wagster, Nov 09 2004


the return of this missed Guy Fawkes night by 4 days - shame.
-- po, Nov 09 2004


Sighted for sale online: Exploding Chocolate Bombs. See link.
-- prufrax, Nov 21 2004


WOW! Expensive, but worth every penny.
-- wagster, Nov 21 2004


Doesn't that link make this banged? (Just kiddin popsy).
-- blissmiss, Nov 21 2004


nah, its a bomb not a firework
-- po, Nov 21 2004


Hey, this is clever.
-- doctorremulac3, Sep 05 2014


I say make UAV bombers that open bomber bays and drop out chocolates.

edited
-- Voice, Sep 06 2014


Wow, talk about a serious case of link rot...
-- normzone, Sep 06 2014


Well if you heated the chocolate like an oil it may work with a pure liquid peroxide as in a kerosene rocket. But a perchlorate oxidizer should where where the reaction keeps the chocolate melted and burns with the oxidizer.
-- travbm, Oct 30 2015



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