Women get to call theirselves ms rather than miss/mrs why not men??-- veitchy, Jan 30 2003 Or this http://www.halfbake...20with_20adjectives [mrthingy, Oct 21 2004] Who are you calling "Ms."? http://archive.salo...07/27/ms/print.htmlArticle from Salon about the usage and history of Ms., dating back to the 17th century, when it meant the same as Mrs., except Mrs. then mean what Ms. means now. [kropotkin, Oct 21 2004] how about mzer/mser or mzr/msr as the masculine ms?-- veitchy, Jan 30 2003 "Darth"-- 8th of 7, Jan 30 2003 Why have titles at all? What's with that, eh?-- DrBob, Jan 30 2003 Heh, OK [*Dr*Bob].-- RoboBust, Jan 30 2003 Perhaps everyone’s name should be preceded by a string of letters indicating connubial status, race, sex, and perhaps what or whom one is seeking (s). MWFsMWM Pluterday-- pluterday, Jan 30 2003 *Martial* status? <Miss Piggy> Hai Ya!!! </Miss Piggy>-- DrBob, Jan 30 2003 I think the question should be reversed. Why do women's titles (Mrs and Miss) indicate their marital status, while mens' don't?-- PeterSilly, Jan 30 2003 That’s because men are polygamous.-- pluterday, Jan 30 2003 the equivalent of Miss is Master. Ms was a women's lib idea. perhaps men who believe in women's lib could also call themselves Ms.-- po, Jan 30 2003 Yes, Ms. was invented specifiaclly to redress the issue [PeterSilly] raises.-- snarfyguy, Jan 30 2003 I don't think marriage has anything to do with it [dag]-- po, Jan 30 2003 Why would men want to call themselves ms anyway?-- Sir Jekyll Shave, Jan 30 2003 As po indicates, equivalent of Ms. is Master. Which explains how the equivalent of Mrs. is slave.-- thumbwax, Jan 30 2003 hah-- po, Jan 30 2003 "Msnomer" Hehe.-- bristolz, Jan 30 2003 we already have this. in about 12 weeks, for instance, i'll be Dr. Taylor. not really on subject, but i can't help but brag.-- sambwiches, Jan 30 2003 Mrmeener.-- skinflaps, Jan 30 2003 not that kind of Dr., [thcgenius], but i can have a shot at it.-- sambwiches, Jan 30 2003 Mensch? Shortened to Mn.-- st3f, Jan 31 2003 i'd like to call myself 'bespoke'.-- sambwiches, Jan 31 2003 Mr Point.
BTW - In the UK, Master is reserved for men under the age of 18, irrespective of marital status.-- PeterSilly, Jan 31 2003 Instead of adding them for men, I think it's better to get rid of the additional ones for women. This was the concept behind Ms., wasn't it?
Anyway, this is hardly an original idea.-- waugsqueke, Jan 31 2003 That would depend on the title. Are you sure you are not arguing that you need to invent a new language to express 'original' ideas [waugsqueke]?-- Ludwig, Jan 31 2003 What? I don't quite understand that sentence.-- waugsqueke, Jan 31 2003 // i'd like to call myself 'bespoke' //
<Groucho> I'd like to call myself a cab. </Groucho>-- 8th of 7, Jan 31 2003 <Arthur Askey> I thang you! </Arthur Askey>-- DrBob, Jan 31 2003 Nurse Blissmiss?-- FarmerJohn, Jan 31 2003 i say screw the f*ckin titles. were all humans after all. and what about transexuals. are they going to want to have titles now too?mrms? come on-- ShnargleMonster, Mar 03 2003 Maybe what we need is a single title. Something that can include everyone. M.-- Worldgineer, Mar 03 2003 but why? what is the point. i think we should just nix the titles and get on with our lives-- ShnargleMonster, Mar 03 2003 I have it as received knowledge that getting sex, ah, gender, out of the language is the single biggest reason for the dominance of English over all other languages. So sayeth M. Pluterday.-- pluterday, Mar 03 2003 or, as someone has most likely already pointed out, use titles that are common to both sexes, but that vary with age or status ( not marital, but maybe by the amount of money they make, or something else like that.-- ShnargleMonster, Mar 03 2003 well along the same lines as (pluterday), english is i think the only language that doesn't destinguish between male and female in everyday conversations...........so if all the other languages can work with it why are we so concerned about what letters are in front of our name???? people in spain arn't complaining that all their words are either male or female.and can they please do away with that..so im not sure it's terribly important.however it would be helpful when going through a potential dates mail to know from his title if he was married or not =)-- Sarita, Mar 31 2003 I like those science fiction systems where people have a single honorific, say H. (for Human, I guess). However, Sarita, even having a complete set of status-determining honorifics is not going to save you from those who misuse them.
(SWM) (as if)-- DrCurry, Mar 31 2003 I suggest we dispose of all honorifics, and call everyone either by their actual name, or "Oi!".
This frees up the word "honorific", so that we can use it more suitably - not as a noun, but as an adjective.-- friendlyfire, Mar 31 2003 I'm kinda partial to Maam or Sir.........Now my lady friend calls me Smooth.... I kinda like that too................-- theThinker, Mar 31 2003 Except those that begin with man
manicure as just one example-- Jackeau, Jun 03 2003 Manipulation, anyone?-- saker, Jun 03 2003 Titles, titles, I want titles! 8th of 7, I like your suggestion. But I like a lot of others, too..."Sir", for example. "Lord", as well. Darth has a great ring to it....but....
Ok, this just spawned a post of my own. Later.-- Eugene, Jun 03 2003 We use 'san' in the Thames Estuary as well [omniglot]. Owight San!-- gnomethang, Jul 24 2003 Interestingly, although English has fewer gender-inflected noun and adjective forms than most other Indo-European languages, it has a lot of gender-reliance when it comes to pronouns. For instance in Spanish, it's a lot easier to leave off the 3rd person singular pronoun and just say for instance "did" rather than "he did" or "she did." French also has the usefully vague "on" which can refer to he/she/one/they/we depending on context.
An interesting science-fiction approach to pronouns, in Samuel Delany's "Stars In My Pocket Like Grains of Sand": "he" is used to describe both men and women, while "she" refers to any person you have the hots for.-- hob, Jul 24 2003 Check out Finnish (and/or Turkish, Hungarian, Estonian) for gender-free languages. but I would love to see the day Finnish becomes a world language (a very complex language). there's no he/she/it in these languages, one word for all. No genders for objects either.
For men/women, bisexuals, homosexuals, transsexuals and titles, maybe it really is time to call them with their halfbakery nicknames and forget the old-fashined naming conventions.
Or.. would that spoil the fun for some sirs and deities? :)-- muleksis, Jul 24 2003 It would certainly dampen the fun of role playing.-- Tiger Lily, Jul 24 2003 Ok, so um I'm the DARK LORD, would that mean my prefix title thingy-majig be Dl.?-- The Dark Lord Chuckles the Silly Piggy, Mar 08 2004 random, halfbakery