Liked the spirit of gargin's 'GPS for the poor' ,if not the practicalities. How about an inertial system that takes data from the speed + distance your wheels rotate and the direction the wheels point in? I know airborne Inertial systems lose accuracy over time, but you wouldnt get things like varible air speed and air presure to throw you off. continental drift could be a problem, but hey, no ones perfect ;) Dont know if it would be any cheaper than a low end GPS though. The moving map would have to be on an LCD, but smallish ones seen to be used on cheap digital camera etc.-- tacit, Dec 02 2005 Most automotive GPS systems also use accelerometers to calculate the instantaneous position delta between the slower GPS fixes. This is how the realtime moving maps are driven.-- bristolz, Dec 02 2005 Ah. Did'nt know that Bristolz. Bang goes my (first) idea. I guess that also answers the question on how much cheaper it would be...not a lot.-- tacit, Dec 02 2005 The Chinese made a purely mechanical compass ages ago. It was a small cart with two wheels and a pointer on top. As the wheels turned ad different rates, the pointer would keep pointing the same way by means of gears inside.-- discontinuuity, Dec 03 2005 random, halfbakery