Cops Bad guys (You) Multitude of cities Views include helicopter "Come and get me coppers!"-- thumbwax, Mar 21 2002 Sorta http://www.microsoft.com/games/midtown/"Wreckless racing gamers wishing to test drive Midtown Madness will be able to do so in cruise mode, Blitz race, Checkpoint race, and Cops and Robbers." [UhhOK, Mar 21 2002, last modified Oct 05 2004] baked http://www.us.infog...m/games/driver_psx/it's cool, man. [mihali, Mar 22 2002, last modified Oct 05 2004] Golden and Crusty http://www.entdepot...box_wreckless.shtmlWreckless for X-Box. Don't know about the helicopter views, though. [bristolz, Mar 22 2002, last modified Oct 05 2004] "you dirty rat, thumbwax, aarrgghhhh"-- po, Mar 21 2002 Other games have tried this Idea (see link) but as for an overall game, it would be sweet to finally outrun the cops. After that - Sim Fugitive - to stay on the run.:o)-- UhhOK, Mar 21 2002 the game "driver" for playstation has all of this except for the helicopter view, and yes, it rocks.-- mihali, Mar 22 2002 Now you know one reason why I don't waste time on long ideas - but still, when we view car chases on TV, they are usually helicopter views - 10 cop cars chasing after the bad guy, spikes, etc.-- thumbwax, Mar 22 2002 Would hubcaps come off my car every time I went around a corner?-- hippo, Mar 22 2002 at the end of last year, i heard a rumour that a company is working on a driving sim where you will race through "real" cities that are being mapped, and which are connected to each other. The idea is that everyone connects to a central internet server which tracks where everyone is. It will also "top up" traffic with bots to simulate various congestion levels. You can then race about & see how fast you really could get from home to the office. You can also hold your own races & each points with challanges. These points are then used to upgrade your car. but watch out for the players that have elected to be cops (a strict ratio is enforced)....-- mymus, Mar 22 2002 COME AND GET ME, COPPERS! I've got more shortcuts in, through and around L.A. than these guys could ever dream up.-- thumbwax, Mar 22 2002 EXACTLY ! you can use your local knowledge to your advantage, & even use the sim to learn a new city... my friend with the rumour, and i, even pondered allowing users to "paint" buidings in the correct colours to give better realism. and to have different sound affects for areas.-- mymus, Mar 22 2002 thumb, still waiting for a definition of a dog-leg turn. cheers!-- po, Mar 22 2002 dog-leg turn: A turn which looks something like this __---- (if viewed from above). The street keeps the same name, it just requires the driver to go down another street ever so briefly in order to continue being on the road bearing the same name.-- thumbwax, Mar 22 2002 Driver II has all the above ideas, you can also get out of the car and change vehicles, out run the police helicopter and chase a train. Not as yet able to view from the 'copter, but I'm sure some 'cheat' would allow you to do this. Excellent game.-- gizmo, Mar 22 2002 I haven't played Driver 2, but the original is definitely top-notch. And yes hippo, the hubcaps do come off when you go round corners, and there are loads of alleys full of cardboard boxes etc. Get it now! So this is Baked! thumbwax, you need to stay in more :o)-- DrBob, Mar 23 2002 Hi po, sorry I haven't been around for a while. My Mum bought me 'the sims', but she has got hoocked on it and I can't get a turn on the Mac.!!!-- gizmo, Mar 23 2002 Dr Bob: Driver II is excellent, even better than Driver I, you must get it.-- gizmo, Mar 23 2002 random, halfbakery