A while back, [pluterday] posted an idea for a musical zipper and [Amos Kito] anno'ed it with the idea of it saying a word, such as "Reebok" as it was slid. The trouble with this is that it would end up saying it backwards when it was unzipped. My solution to this problem, and yet another zip idea, is to have a bidirectional zip which, unlike current bidirectional fasteners, can be completely undone either at the top or the bottom, by using box and pin mechanisms at both ends along with sliders. As the zip is fastened, the spacing, shape and size of the teeth "say" the name of the company, which is palindromic, hence "Sadidas", so that it says the same word when zipped up and unzipped.

This zip is incorporated into a jacket with four sleeves, two at the top and two at the bottom, so it can be worn either way up. The name of the company is also emblazoned across the chest and the stomach, and is symmetrical along vertical and horizontal axes. There are also two pairs of pockets, one at one end and one at the other. The neck and waist are also symmetrical, with a zip-through collar which is wide enough when partly unzipped to accommodate the hips. In other words, the entire jacket is both symmetrical and palindromic.

The logo would have to be made up of the capital letters I, O and X, so it would end up being called IOIOI or something.
-- nineteenthly, Feb 19 2008

From this Musical_20Zipper
Whatever happened to [pluterday] and [Amos Kito]? [nineteenthly, Feb 19 2008]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambigram [Spacecoyote, Oct 27 2008]

http://en.wikipedia...Phonetic_palindrome The problem with pronunciation. [Spacecoyote, Oct 27 2008]

Palindromes are just all the rage these days.
-- gabrielsnew, Feb 19 2008


//Whatever happened to [pluterday] and [Amos Kito]?//
I was dropped on my head when I was a baby. As for [pluterday], same thing, I guess.
-- Amos Kito, Feb 20 2008


OK, glad you're still around, [Amos Kito]. I had an idea based on [pluterday]'s name the other day, but didn't know if it was right to post it for that reason.
-- nineteenthly, Feb 20 2008


I want a zip that played backwards says hidden Satanic messages.
-- DrCurry, Feb 20 2008


That could be for the line of leather motorcycle jackets. In this idea, you get Satanic messages in both directions.

//You were dropped on [pluterday]'s head?//
[rcarty], yes, and just think of the accuracy and coordination required to do it.
-- Amos Kito, Feb 20 2008


I like this because it brings to mind the idea of a spoken palindrome. A written palindrome is not necessarily a palindrome as audio, that is, when you reverse the audio data, it doesn't sound exactly the same backwards as forwards. For this to happen, you need to bake some sort of aural ambigram, the very thought of which I could mull over for hours.
-- Spacecoyote, Oct 27 2008


The word "sadidas" pronounced in my accent is a spoken palindrome: /'sædIdæs/
-- nineteenthly, Oct 27 2008


I tried saying it backwards and in with my accent my wife started coughing up toads. I guess that's why I flunked Spanish in college. Funny the same thing happened when we spun that Beetles track backward at the Frat. Gosh, you don't think [DrCurry] is right?
-- theGem, Oct 27 2008


[19thly], yes but the audio data is not even close, because the phonemes themselves, when pronounced, are not palindromic. A talking zipper is a mechanical device, it does not follow IPA, but rather is more like a small phonograph.

For this application, we need the word to be not only a palindrome, but also an ambigram, and a new thing I just coined, an ambiphone (meaning, palindromic audio data of a phonetic palindrome).

In other words, a recording of a phonetic palindrome, for instance, pip, doesn't sound the same backwards as forwards unless machined to do so by a computer, thus making it a ambiphone.
-- Spacecoyote, Oct 27 2008



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