Just heard a serious discussion on CNBC about not reopening the NYSE floor. Certainly it's not opening any time soon.
Prices for office space in Manhattan are doubtless crashing right now. Sure, life will return at some point, but density, density, density -- that I think is over for a considerable amount of time -- perhaps forever.
In the US at least there's a good chance this will also reverse the movement (which started in the last crisis) of renting and living in cities -- back to the suburbs.
But for those living in cities, unused office spaces are a great platform for creating many thousands of great living spaces.-- theircompetitor, Apr 07 2020 Spanish flu ~ Jan 1918 to Dec 1920. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_fluLast one. [Skewed, Apr 07 2020] 1889–1890 flu pandemic https://en.wikipedi...931890_flu_pandemicThe one b4. [Skewed, Apr 07 2020] Buildings wrapped with walkways Buildings_20wrapped_20with_20walkwaysHospital precinct on floors 25-45 [chronological, Apr 11 2020] We suggest that a cubical format will be found to be the optimum.
Towns and cities in the traditional sense are losing their reason for existence. Many of the facilities that cities provide can now be provided more cheaply by a fully distributed system.
It is necessary to ask the question "What is an urban centre for ?" since physical proximity is less and less important for business. For manufacturing, yes - that can often only be done efficiently by concentrating resources on a single, large site. But anything information-based can be dispersed.-- 8th of 7, Apr 07 2020 A-- pertinax, Apr 07 2020 r-- pertinax, Apr 07 2020 e-- pertinax, Apr 07 2020 -- pertinax, Apr 07 2020 y-- pertinax, Apr 07 2020 o-- pertinax, Apr 07 2020 u-- pertinax, Apr 07 2020 -- pertinax, Apr 07 2020 s-- pertinax, Apr 07 2020 u-- pertinax, Apr 07 2020 r-- pertinax, Apr 07 2020 e-- pertinax, Apr 07 2020 ?-- pertinax, Apr 07 2020 Yes.Yes.Yes. Yes.Yes.Yes. Yes.Yes.Yes. Yes.Yes.Yes.-- 8th of 7, Apr 07 2020 My, you're looking very quorate today.-- pertinax, Apr 07 2020 This is going to bring up an interesting tension amidst the environmentalists. Too much density risks this kind of virus nonsense. Too much sprawl eats too many resources inefficiently.-- RayfordSteele, Apr 07 2020 [pertinax], you-- blissmiss, Apr 07 2020 crack-- blissmiss, Apr 07 2020 me-- blissmiss, Apr 07 2020 up-- blissmiss, Apr 07 2020 We already did Occupy Wall Street...-- 2 fries shy of a happy meal, Apr 07 2020 // Too much sprawl eats too many resources inefficiently. //
Put the poor people and the Eco-fascists in the tall buildings at high density.
Put the wealthy ones in the low-density suburban and rural sprawl; since there are fewer of them, they will consume more space, but less total resource.
As you point out, denser populations are vulnerable to transmissible diseases. Oh, wait ....-- 8th of 7, Apr 07 2020 smart buildings out of skyscrapers make a lot of sense. They could have supermarkets, medical centers, parks on certain floors, and apartments with spectacular views.-- theircompetitor, Apr 07 2020 ... funeral homes, crematoria ...-- 8th of 7, Apr 07 2020 You never gave me that Picard commentary? Did you make peace with Seven's sexual orientation?-- theircompetitor, Apr 07 2020 I'd put this in <Blatantly Idiotic Predictions for 2020>, if it was blatantly idiotic, but it's not, at least not in the sense of being highly unlikely.
But anyway.
Here goes.
"Nothing much will change".
Like the Spanish flu this will pass, & things will just go back to how they were b4.-- Skewed, Apr 07 2020 Not quite; established authority will take yet another crippling, irretrievably damaging blow - one the facts become clear - and the corrosive distrust will rot even further into the foundations of nation states.
Soon, it will be time for Cleansing by Fire and the Sword.-- 8th of 7, Apr 07 2020 //Like the Spanish flu this will pass, & things will just go back to how they were b4.//
In the sense that there would be an enormous new boom followed by a depression?
Things change all the time. The frog just doesn't notice it-- theircompetitor, Apr 07 2020 //an enormous new boom followed by a depression?//
You forgot the world war that followed those.-- Skewed, Apr 07 2020 He has, we haven't, hence the "Fire and the Sword" comment.-- 8th of 7, Apr 07 2020 //Things change all the time. The frog just doesn't notice it//
He does if he can read & has access to a library of historic data.
[Adjusts glasses & turns a page]
"Ribbit"
Change in the (societal) sense I'm on about happens at a snail's pace (if at all), it's why I'm so well fed.
[Munches contemplatively on a fresh snail that didn't move fast enough]
& after this brief hiatus all evidence of prior examples very much suggest things will quickly return to how they were b4 & then continue at that same snails pace.
If you think otherwise [their] you just haven't listened to the WHO closely enough.-- Skewed, Apr 07 2020 //not reopening the NYSE floor//
Actually, NYSE is far behind the curve. What other stock exchange still has an open- outcry trading floor? It's like writing paper cheques; come on America, do try to keep up! ;-)-- pertinax, Apr 11 2020 There are many things more worthy of fixing before the trading floor gets to the top of the list...-- 8th of 7, Apr 11 2020 > smart buildings out of skyscrapers make a lot of sense. They could have supermarkets, medical centers, parks on certain floors, and apartments with spectacular views. — theircompetitor, Apr 07 2020
Reminds me of buildings wrapped with walkways, I added a link.-- chronological, Apr 11 2020 random, halfbakery