People who, for whatever reason, lack even a high school diploma face a massive barrier to all the everything in life. They can't get jobs that don't actually require education. There are laws about it but the laws are weak and unenforced. And making a law is the wrong sort of solution anyway.

There are many people who are actually willing to work but the unnecessary focus on education has left them out of the workforce. An opportunity appears.

This business would exclusively hire people without any experience or diploma. It would outsource them for manual labor. It would also help them get diplomas or equivalencies. Pay, of course, would be minimum wage. While many would turn out to be lazy or dishonest this business would be able to let that sort go and retain those willing to work hard and those who can be educated. The business gets super cheap labor, the employees get a real chance in life.
-- Voice, Jul 07 2019

A guide to apprenticeships (UK) https://www.gov.uk/...-to-apprenticeships
[calum, Jul 08 2019]

https://en.wikipedi..._Judge,_Baron_Judge [notexactly, Jul 22 2019]

The Germans still do something like this. Perhaps you've seen the apprentice tradesmen, dressed like a cross between 19th-century Bavarian stereotype and undertaker, walking across Europe, doing odd jobs in return for food and lodging.
-- 4and20, Jul 07 2019


// many would turn out to be lazy or dishonest this business would be able to let that sort go //

... so that they can seek a career in politics ...
-- 8th of 7, Jul 07 2019


But minimum wage is getting higher and higher to chase those virtual ocelots.
-- wjt, Jul 08 2019


Congratulations, you have invented capita^H^H^H^H^H^H outso^H^H^H^H^H apprenticeships.
-- calum, Jul 08 2019


I mean, I am being churlish, as the idea is for an apprenticeship outsourcer which is not the same as capitalism, outsourcing as a concept or apprenticeships as a concept, so apologies. But I would bet my best boy's best bollock that apprenticeships are offered by outsourcers (e.g. Landscaping services) so really this is an idea of scale, rather than of concept.
-- calum, Jul 08 2019


We have a thing like that here called Man-Friday.

Shouldn't really admit this but I've lied on every job application about getting a high school diploma and given the name and address of a school which burned down the year I would have finished.
I don't think anyone's ever checked.
Now I'm self taught, self employed and don't even have a ticket for the trade I've been plying for 25 years or so.
-- 2 fries shy of a happy meal, Jul 08 2019


You know that instead of working hard to get a PhD you can just change your first name to 'Doctor'?
-- hippo, Jul 08 2019


It worked for Judge Reinhold, now in his 15th year on the US Supreme Court.
-- calum, Jul 08 2019


And King Camp Gillette, who invented the safety razor and fits somewhere into the royal family
-- hippo, Jul 08 2019


It strikes me as unusual to think that having gone to the trouble of adding "King", he might have considered striking "Camp" from his name while he was at it.

Not that there's anything wrong with Camp, other than it not being a name. Like if my second name was Socket, and I was filling out the paperwork in order to change my first name to "Emperor", I'd put some serious consideration into not being called Emperor Socket Zenthomas.
-- zen_tom, Jul 08 2019


I don't think he added "King" to his name - I think that's what his parents named him. Wikipedia says his son was also called "King", which makes sense as royal succession is usually hereditary.
-- hippo, Jul 08 2019


The available evidence strongly suggests that royalty is a sexually transmitted condition rather than being purely genetic.

However, there are documented cases of spontaneous idiopathic royalty, such as Gaius Julius Caesar and Napoleon Bonaparte.

It's all very complicated.
-- 8th of 7, Jul 08 2019


Most sensible countries have rules about allowing a title to be used as a (given) name. So you can't be called "Doctor" or "King" or "Judge" or similar (whether your parents try to call you that, or you try to change it to that yourself).
-- neutrinos_shadow, Jul 08 2019


where i live the full plumbers aprenticship costs something like 2000 because it is subsidiesed by the government and also I imagine the employers which do some of the training. Id totlally do it myself but I grew up in that horrible generation thought up made up gigs in design/marketing/whatever were more respectable than blue collar work.
-- bob, Jul 09 2019


where i live the full plumbers aprenticship costs something like 2000 because it is subsidiesed by the government and also I imagine the employers which do some of the training. Id totlally do it myself but I grew up in that horrible generation thought up made up gigs in design/marketing/whatever were more respectable than blue collar work.
-- bob, Jul 09 2019


Apprenticeships are sadly overlooked - much of our history of technological progress has been within the "workshop" system where young folks are tutored by older more technically experienced individuals.

There's a definite amount of dogsbodying that is part-and-parcel of that arrangement, but if there's sufficient respect for the art being apprenticed, and for those who have nurtured the skills over time to practice with skill and efficiency, then mastery can become a strong motivator. This respect has to be reciprocated with a sense of pastoral care - otherwise the system will eventually fall down.

Without either of these things, when the care, and the cultural respect for mastery and technical ability doesn't exist, then apprenticeships risk becoming a cynical means of providing cheap labour while the older folks nip off down the local boozer.

I'm not sure how you develop that respect for artistry in a culture of reality TV and Instagram where picture perfect, safe non-proficiency is lauded as being attractive.
-- zen_tom, Jul 09 2019


^ That's why I stopped working for high-end clients and doing custom mosaics and such. They do not want to pay what the work is worth when compared to doing tract housing or commercial buildings or... almost any other thing than having to haggle for the balance of your pay after-the-fact... while trying to complete your next contract... and pay your guys... and your supply bill...

...and I digress.
I'm gonna shut up now.

No, really.
-- 2 fries shy of a happy meal, Jul 10 2019


// royalty is a sexually transmitted condition //

8th, if that's your verbal invention, hat is off
-- theircompetitor, Jul 10 2019


Completely original, as far as we know.
-- 8th of 7, Jul 10 2019


What [tc] said.
-- pertinax, Jul 11 2019



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