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Little Davros stroller   (+14)  [vote for, against]
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After watching Genesis of the Daleks the other night, I found myself wondering what Davros must have been like as a child. I pictured him in a much smaller version of his enclosed wheelchair. Genesis of the Little Davros stroller!
-- jaksplat, Feb 03 2010

Davros http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davros
[jaksplat, Feb 03 2010]

Davro http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Davro
Pure. Evil. [Jinbish, Feb 03 2010]

Together in Electric Dreams http://www.youtube....watch?v=8CfIrBSRbPY
[Jinbish, Feb 03 2010]

"...less than half its present size." http://www.diziforu...ew=threaded&catid=4
Found it! [nineteenthly, Feb 04 2010]

Tomorrow's World (TV Show) archive footage http://www.bbc.co.u...owsworld/8009.shtml
BBC archive footage of popular science show that includes a gentleman with morse code machine you can speak to (in morse code). [Jinbish, Feb 04 2010]

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Daleks http://www.youtube....&videos=cy-MZY3aGPw
Davros used to have have legs? [jaksplat, Jun 26 2010]

This would only be complete with a little "control panel" full of activities for the baby.
-- DrWorm, Feb 03 2010


Of course, but the knit cap with a glowing blue 3rd eye sewn in would be sold seperately.
-- jaksplat, Feb 03 2010


Awesome [+]
-- 8th of 7, Feb 03 2010


Baked by someone at one of my nephews' parent and toddler groups in the mid-'eighties, and that's God's honest truth.

To me, the most interesting thing about Genesis Of The Daleks was the statement "when the Universe was less than half its present size". When exactly was the Universe half its present size?
-- nineteenthly, Feb 03 2010


That's nothing: until the mid-60's the Universe was in monochrome - I know so because I saw it on TV.

But to answer your question, the Universe was half its size when it was half its present age (give or take a bit).
-- MaxwellBuchanan, Feb 03 2010


Well, assuming 'size' was meant to be understood as 'volume' which, in turn, does not take spacetime into account but rather just some kind of xyz coordinate system, then the Universe appears to be expanding (we can tell from the Doppler shift in the observed light from stars). So, if I was a sci-fi writer without so much knowledge of science I would say something along the lons of "Universe...present size" to vaguely represent a long time ago.

[MB]: The 'size' growth won't be linear (volume of a sphere varies with cube of radius after all). Plus we have to take the ol' relativity into account... (puts hand up, hoping for a HBer astro-physicist to jump in)
-- Jinbish, Feb 03 2010


// the Universe was half its size when it was half its present age //

Wrong. The expansion is exponential; do the math.
-- 8th of 7, Feb 03 2010


"Aw! He just said his first "Exterminate""
-- coprocephalous, Feb 04 2010


// the Universe was half its size when it was half its present age //

It wasn't. Even assuming it was a Euclidean sphere expanding in a linear fashion, when it was half its present age, it would've had a volume of a quarter its present size. However, neither is it spherical nor is the expansion linear.
-- nineteenthly, Feb 04 2010


- or does our concept of 'size' expand with the universe? Would the measuring device we're using expand as space expands?
-- hippo, Feb 04 2010


There was a Usenet discussion on this somewhere.
-- nineteenthly, Feb 04 2010


No. It just generates more music by Roni Size.
-- Jinbish, Feb 04 2010


//As it expands, then, where does the extra stuff come from? Does it just grow, because someone’s watering it, or does it convert history into size?//

I'd imagine, assuming we can start using the conceptual starting blocks of energy and matter - and extending the concept of their interswappability (e=mc2 and all that) we might maintain the principle of the conservation of "stuff" to suggest that spacetime itself is equally swaparoundable - and that as the universe cools down, energymass-wise, it is through the process of spacetime creation. (This process undoubtedly occuring along the lines suggested by some mockingly simple formula - let's say the differential of e=mc², it could be something like e=2c)

Or to put it another way - why is the conservation of energy principle the only conservation one? What about entropy? Why can it always only go down? What if there is a conservation of entropy/universe principle where the missing entropy goes into the generation of space, time - and history? A kind of cosmic engine, always creating the future by losing a tiny bit of entropy in the now.

So yes - I think that it is more likely to be a conversion of sorts. Or a decay - depending on how you want to look at it.

- If everything is interchangable, energy, mass, space and time - then the mere existance of stuff might, on a fundamental level, generate its own time, and therefore is the root of its own history. Or to put it another way, the big energy that existed in a time when there was no time (at the dawn of the big bang) somehow split itself into a whole bunch of separate components, energy, mass, space and time itself - all the same "stuff", just in different forms.

Suggesting that what would appear to be an "expansion" of spacetime, is rather an internal rearranging of various bits and pieces.
-- zen_tom, Feb 04 2010


I have an unpopular view that the Steady State theory is true or that the Universe is infinite in some other way.

Leaving that aside though, my understanding of space is that it's a relation between objects within it rather than a container for those objects, so space doesn't actually come from anywhere. In terms of general relativity, my understanding is that on a large scale in all cases and in some cases also on a small scale, the parallel postulate does not apply. That doesn't mean there's a hypersphere as such, containing the extra space like a balloon contains air. It means that the properties of the relations between different physical locations can't be described in terms of Cartesian coordinates alone, that the angles of a triangle always add up to more than a half-turn of a circle, and so on.

Therefore, to say the Universe is less than half its present size means that the maximum distance between any two locations was lower at that time.
-- nineteenthly, Feb 04 2010


The Cartesian hypersphere will be exterminated!
-- DrBob, Feb 04 2010


Can we also have a Captain Pike stroller complete with blinking light?

"Is widdle baby hungry?" *blink blink*
-- tatterdemalion, Feb 04 2010


Whatever next? Prof. Hawkings?
-- Jinbish, Feb 04 2010


All of these would be good, but is diversification to that extent a good idea from a business perspective? I say the BBC should be gotten to endorse the Davros stroller from about the time the character next appears in Doctor Who, then Pike should be timed to coincide with the next Star Trek movie. After all, you don't want to run before you can trundle. Also, market the Pike stroller as an educational toy for learning binary.
-- nineteenthly, Feb 04 2010


// a whole bunch of separate component //

Hint: you forgot "Dark Matter" ...

Would the Davros Stroller have a built-in potty ?
-- 8th of 7, Feb 04 2010


Well, as it stands it has a built in potty...person. Presumably Davros has one in there somewhere.

Hey! Why not get babies to communicate everything in binary as ASCII rather than speaking, signing or learning to read and write?
-- nineteenthly, Feb 04 2010


//communicate everything in binary as ASCII//
Why not Morse code? (link)
-- Jinbish, Feb 04 2010


Yes, in Morse code by thinking about playing tennis.

Excellent link, [jinbish]. I still prefer to say the word "scissors" repeatedly though. By the way, that typewriter is in the first Tomorrow's World book.
-- nineteenthly, Feb 04 2010


// get babies to communicate everything in binary //

Baked. Us.
-- 8th of 7, Feb 04 2010


One.
-- nineteenthly, Feb 04 2010


<total digression>

WunWun was a race horse
TuTu was one too.
WunWun won one race and
TuTu won one too!
</td>
-- DrBob, Feb 04 2010


Thanks for reminding me of that!

There's no such thing as tu.
-- nineteenthly, Feb 04 2010


Niceness DrBob!. On my 40th B'Day yesterday I got a text in Binary from a friend (clearly sent by his daughter) which said 'Happy Birthday' in Binary. Quick as a flash I replied 'Thanks very much'.
Haven't heard from him since.
-- gnomethang, Feb 04 2010


//There's no such thing as tu.//
I'm either mad or drunk but I am sure that someone on another website suggested this (regarding Crosswords). Care to explain?
-- gnomethang, Feb 04 2010


Et tu Brute?
-- DrBob, Feb 04 2010


Indeed! DrBob. Your perfidious French cousins even have a verb for calling people 'tu'!
On se tutoie maintenant?
-- gnomethang, Feb 04 2010


So... how do you say 'happy birthday' in binary?
-- pocmloc, Feb 04 2010


01001000 01100001 01110000 01110000 01111001. 00100000 01000010 01101001 01110010 01110100 01101000 01100100 01100001 01111001
It was my birthday on Wednesday and someone sent me this greeting by text. How helpful am I?
-- gnomethang, Feb 05 2010


[Gnomethang], it's from Futurama. Bender has a dream in binary, wakes up and says "I think i saw a two", to which Fry replies, "Don't be scared. There's no such thing as two."
-- nineteenthly, Feb 05 2010


Thanks! So it is just an encoding of the usual 26-character alphabet rather than a fundamental translation. But you are using 3 characters, "0", "1" and " " - does it still make unambiguous sense if the " "s are removed?
-- pocmloc, Feb 05 2010


<pedant alert> That is not how you say "Happy Birthday" in binary, it is how you say it in ASCII. EBCDIC would also be binary, but would be completely different. </pa>
-- coprocephalous, Feb 05 2010



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