I posted the game before, but i deleted on accident. All players use different colored balls. if there are few players, each person uses several. They deal a hand of cards to determine who gets play of the ball color with the best position on the course. at first i was thinking 21 (blackjack) - the closest to 21 gets the closest ball. and so on... Those who go over... maybe you can think of something. maybe they just deal again? Lose a stroke? Play for strokes. bet strokes? who knows.-- L a z y M a n, Aug 06 2003random, halfbakery