Ordinary fruits with a few extra genes added, implanted from jalapeno peppers AND/or other plants that cause mouth-burn. When used in various culinary creations, such treats as spiced-apple pie never tasted so ... formidable!
-- Vernon, Nov 05 2004

About genetically modified plants http://www.royalsoc...les/document-56.pdf
Current knowledge. [Vernon, Nov 05 2004]

Transgenic crops http://www.colostat...es/TransgenicCrops/
The very word "transgenic" refers to moving chosen genes around. [Vernon, Nov 05 2004]

For [brodie] http://www.halfbake...hopping_20Chillies!
[Worldgineer, Nov 05 2004]

Firemelon http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Firemelon
An idea by [DesertFox] [Detly, Nov 10 2004]

Grapples http://www.getfitfo.../grapple_story.html
They already make apples that taste like grapes. [Who Is John Galt, Nov 11 2004]

[-] for the idea. [+] for the brevity. :)

So I guess your dislike extends to the offspring of FJ's ideas too huh Jutta? nice.
-- etherman, Nov 05 2004


This has nothing to do with what I personally like or dislike, and you're doing yourself and others a disfavor by misrepresenting it that way.
-- jutta, Nov 05 2004


I agree. That was a bit rude, [eth].
-- Worldgineer, Nov 05 2004


[jutta], I was not suggesting any amount of "magic" gene manipulation. They are CURRENTLY taking desired genes from Plant A and putting them into Plant B. Why else COULD there be such a flap about genetically modified foods?

The only thing that keeps this idea from being implemented right now is IDENTIFYING the particular genes responsible for spicy-flavor molecules -- and if it hasn't been done already, the way they are mapping out genes these days, it won't be much longer.

So, you could delete this for some other reason, but not that one. And regarding simply adding spices, did you know that a fair number of hot spices have anti-bacterial/preservative properties? It's logical to think that getting the spice-molecules all through the fruit (without cooking out the vitamins) as they grow, would be superior to adding them merely to the outside (sometimes too late). Also, what about when you happen to have run out of spices-to-add? Are you SURE it's always the easier thing? GM means the hard part of modifying the plant only needs to be done once. After that, natural propagation of the species will do more than eliminate one simple cooking step -- it will lower the cost of those other hot spices!

"The recipe calls for hot peppers, but we're out."

"That's OK, we have plenty of spicy grapes, spicy peaches, spicy kiwi fruit...". :)
-- Vernon, Nov 05 2004


maybe <World> but <jutta> does seem oh so keen to stick the boot in early on certain individuals ideas, when she is strangely absent from others.
-- etherman, Nov 05 2004


Good grief, etherman. Why don’t you ask for your money back?
-- ldischler, Nov 05 2004


I like this idea. In Mexico we already eat fruits with hot chilli powder or ground chile piquín. It would be nice if the fruit came with it already. [+]
-- Pericles, Nov 05 2004


What if you don't wanna cook it [Una]?
fuck spicy foods [-]
-- brodie, Nov 05 2004


You'll regret it. See link for more info.
-- Worldgineer, Nov 05 2004


But [DrBobs] rhyme doesn't say it's bad.
-- brodie, Nov 05 2004


If there is tension on the HB it has nothing to do with anything I've posted [JSP], and everything to do with how some bakers are treated by the management.

On one hand they wax lyrical about how its amazing that the HB means so much to so many people. Next thing they're e-mailing people telling them to push off because they don't like the way they write.

The HB is a great site, but I think it's out growing its creators and I for one have had enough of them not being able to deal with it. So I'm checking out. Thank you all and good luck.
-- etherman, Nov 08 2004


to [etherman]: Always remember to forget

The things that made you sad.

But never forget to remember

The things that made you glad. (from and Irish Blessing)

so long.
-- dentworth, Nov 08 2004


Are we still talking about fiery fruits? I think that genetically engineering a plant to produce a non-protein product (like capsacian) is harder than making it produce a protein product (like insulin). The protein can just be translated and that is that. Processing of a non-protein requires a lot of other machinery that needs to be assembled correctly in time and space.

Beef flavor is a peptide, I understand. Beefy apples should be possible.
-- bungston, Nov 11 2004


"I couldn't help it. It just popped in there..."
-- RayfordSteele, Nov 11 2004



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