Hi, I’m new to your site - just a brief intro. I have a head full of clutter just like this. I don't plan on doing anything with this, but I think it has merit.
I live in an area that requires the use of well water. I had a lot of problems with mineral deposits that collect in the water lines, foul & corrode metal components, i.e. strainers in faucets , copper connection to the hot water heater, and fittings on the tank itself.
The options were a filtration system, and the constant maintenance of filters, and powders, and ultimately an expensive proposition.
I looked for options on the internet, and found the magnetic solutions. It’s pretty simple, the magnets are configured around the main pipe coming into the house, in a ring fashion, and the fields alternate every other magnet to form a circle around the incoming pipe.
I had nothing to loose - so I tried it; and point blank - it works! Where I had hard mineral deposits in pipes, after about 2 weeks the deposits started to break down, and return to their suspended original state, and over the period of about 6 months were completely eliminated from the entire plumbing system.
Sooo… Got to thinking, If this works in water lines, would it work in humans. If the minerals, and deposits that ultimately build up on artery walls, and cause plaque and heart disease, are a lot of the same mineral deposits found in the drinking water, would the magnetic field align the ions the same way it does in water, and re-suspend them so that the body could just naturally eliminate them / flush them out, and clean the arteries.
It could be worn at night around a large artery i.e. femoral or brachial cephalic in the arm, and quite possibly have the same benefit, as it cleans the plumbing in your house.
I know there are a ton of charlatans selling magnetic therapy items, but I have never come across a late night infomercial with Ron Popeal hawking something similar.
Just a thought, I have an idea a day, sometimes more! Nice little forum for cleaning out the clutter, as I’m sure there are some miners that visit. I anxiously await the INFOMERCIAL-- classic2j, Dec 19 2005 Magnetic Scale Removal http://www.mghmarke...o.uk/waterframe.htmNo explanation how it works, though. [DrCurry, Dec 19 2005] Bioflow Magnotherapy http://www.simplyma...om/en-us/pg_10.htmlHow the magnotherapy products purportedly work. Click on the Bioflow Bracelets and Bioflow Wristbands links at the upper page margin for views of a variety of available bands. [jurist, Dec 19 2005] I suppose this all depends on whether the artery-wall deposits you speak of are magnetic or not. Though I like the idea, although the name isn't quite representitive. [+]-- Honduras, Dec 19 2005 That's the interesting thing about the phenomenen - the way I understand it, is that the ions of the mineral / metals are alligned as to not allow bonding to the vessel / pipe. Mineral deposits as calcium, magnesium, etc., which do not have magnetic properties, are disolved, and flushed out with daily use.-- classic2j, Dec 19 2005 Deposits in arteries are a completely different substance than the deposits in pipes in hard water areas, so you would have to conduct your field research all over again if you want to repurpose your magnets.
As you yourself point out, using magnets for health purposes is Widely Baked, whatever the medicinal benefits.-- DrCurry, Dec 19 2005 The interesting this about this is that the magnets worked on the pipes. Magnetic inteventions are magnets for suckers and so I am always suspicious of schemes that solve problems by slapping on magnets.
That said, metal / ion interactions are mysterious to me. I remember being astonished to learn that a ships hull could be protected from rust not by galvanizing the whole thing, but by simply affixing a block of zinc at intervals along the hull.
Does less scale form on a magnetized surface? Riddle me this, [classic2j]. Are the water pipes to which you attached magnets themselves ferrous? It gets less plausible if they are not.
Welcome to the HB. It helps me a lot with my head full of clutter.-- bungston, Dec 19 2005 //If this works in water lines, would it work in humans// Well, I guess that made short work of the need for laboratory animals...-- lurch, Dec 19 2005 The line comming into house from well is copper, that is where magnets are attached, and the ground line for the electric is attached.
That's just it! Most PVC - some copper. The copper seemed to be corroded the worst, and on top of that the soldier joints seemed to be affected by some sort of electrolysis.
I'm not selling anything here, just a complete facination! I installed this simple gadget over 3 years ago, and plumbing looks like the day I moved in the house, and the copper connections and joints - spottless.
Regarding the Zinc. Barnicles attach to wood also, years ago when they allowed "lead" in bottom paints, had the same electrolytic effect when reacting to salt water.
If you look at the pics in the link posted by DrCurry they are pretty realistic, of how bad the problem can become.
Even if the vascular cleaning is not valid. This is a good infomercial for those finishing a 12 pack @ 2:00am, and attempting to hook shot the empty UTZ bag in the trash can!-- classic2j, Dec 19 2005 Magnets on copper, hmm? Here is a simple experiment. Two identical lengths of copper pipe. Three buckets of your well water. The pipes go in two buckets; the third just has water. You borrow some of your pipe magnets and put them on one of the pipes. All three buckets are left out in the garage to dry up.
Unless I am extrapolating off into the bizarro world, the pipe with the magnet should somehow repel the salts from the evaporating water. These should instead collect on the sides and bottom of the bucket, as they will do in the bucket with no pipe. The null hypothesis: equal accumulation of scale and deposits on both pipes. If no deposits occur on either pipe, perhaps there has been a change in your well water.
Does that sound right?-- bungston, Dec 19 2005 No, the water has to be flowing - If I understand the principle correctly as the water or "Blood" - (were getting off the main hypothesis here) flows through the magnetic field the atoms / molecules are aligned in a fashion that dosen't allow the elements to bind with the substrate.
Regarding the comment on the barnicles - I read somewhere the reason that lead / zink works is because the barnicle attaches itself via a chemical process, and the zink by creating an electrolysis when it interacts with the salt water distorts a certain molecule, that does not allow the chemical bond to occur. Much like a virus cell when trying to fit an antibiotic that will attach to the infected cell, and destroy it.-- classic2j, Dec 19 2005 Your pipe - artery similarity is not far from the truth, but I don't believe that scale builds by forming inside metallic crystals and extruding a semi-soft scale 'goo' into the pipe lumen to be capped by more scale. I think that if magnets do ablate scale in pipes that you ultimately drink that scale, thereby removing it from circulation. In your body, plaque molecules that find themselves dislodged in one place generally reattach themselves somewhere else.-- reensure, Dec 19 2005 Re [DrCurry]'s link: I think he meant to direct attention to the *Bioflow* products also mentioned on that page. They are a variety of magnetic bracelet-type products for people and pets to be worn around your wrist to improve your circulation and blood flow. The advertising doesn't provide any very satisfying scientific evidence to prove their claims or explain the process by which it works, but it does seem to be very close to what [classic2j] is describing in his idea. And several years ago there was a series of late-night infomercials about these magnetic Bioflow wristbands.-- jurist, Dec 19 2005 Initially, I was confused as to how a liquid could be made any softer. But these seems like you could at least experiment with it.-- notmarkflynn, Dec 22 2005 random, halfbakery