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Have hooks installed into walls of alleyways. Not too many in the same place to render the alley a tramp-filled coccoon nest; just the odd one or two here and there dotted about the city. (I really like this idea.[+]) |
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Tramp cocoons. I like that. What would emerge in the morning? |
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IMO, it would be wiser to spend money on better and more prevalent shelters. |
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Claiming squatter's rights in a toilet? There's a joke in there somewhere I'm sure... |
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Naive, uncaring and unworkable on a number of levels. Perhaps we could also give those pesky homeless folks some nice garden furniture to sit round during the day. |
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You guys seem to have stereotype of homeless in mind?
Not all homeless are middle-aged alcoholics men? |
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Still even those alcoholics would be better of if they got a good nights sleep? |
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Problem with homeless using cardboard boxes for sleeping is that they are pretty worthless so get left behind.
Also the cardboard boxes offer very little insulation against cold and would be very uncomfortable. |
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Improving the sleep would improve health and then some individuals might get their life back on the rails? |
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Hammocks instead are portable and homeless would stealth camp during the night and remove their hammocks during the day. |
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//Also the cardboard boxes offer very little insulation against cold and would be very uncomfortable.// |
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This is the main problem I have with your idea. Having slept in a hammock on a cool night on several occasions, I can report that a hammock offers NO insulation against the cold. With proper sleeping bags, blankets, whatever you might get a decent system, but then we're moving from a small, inexpensive something to a big, expensive something. |
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I'd love to figure out a way to help the half dozen or so homeless people that have taken up residence in the public park across the street from me. But I really don't think that throwing camping equipment at them is the solution. |
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You could do like Houston during their bid for the Olympics, and give them all polo shirts from The Gap. |
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Insulation is not a problem as I use a hammock with 3-season insulating system. There is 2nd layer under my hammock and inbetween I use specially designed lightweight foam. Cheaper solution would be just a woollen blanket inbetween the layers.
As this insulation is under the 1st skin it is not compressed and provides warmth unlike thicker matress on a tent.
4-season insulating system for this hammock has been tested succesfully under freezing and snowy conditions in Arctic Norway! |
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I dunno. There's an awful lot of flat ground out there, relative to the number of pairs of attachment points the right distance apart and in a sheltered, private location. |
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And the "worthlessness" of cardboard boxes is the reason people don't get knifed for them |
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Don't mean to be facetious here but I'd just like to reiterate my earlier point: |
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Out of a tramp cocoon would come a bummerfly. Or a sloth. |
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You guys are boxing homeless into one category. Not all homeless are bums and alcoholics. |
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In fact I am in a conventional sense homeless as I do not live in a house with a permanent address. But on the other hand I have a mobile home which is my campervan. |
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How about sleping bags with hammock attachments? I like the idea, and I have seen homeless people use sleeping bags all the time. |
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It isn't hard to convert a sleeping bag into a hammock, and it would solve the insulation problem. Also, the bags aren't too conspicuous and don't always need special places to hang them. If there is a suitable place, the attachments are then used to turn the bag into a hammock. |
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Ham Hocks for the Homeless ? |
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Not just homeless humans, it seems ... |
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The basic problem, shirley, is the habit of sleeping
horizontally. This takes up far too much floorspace. |
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A more practical solution would be a sort of padded
dungaree garment, with a loop attached. Then, all
that is needed is a wall somewhere with lots of very
strong hooks. |
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That begs the question as to why graves are
dug horizontally, rather than drilled vertically
with an auger, giving a superior packing
density. |
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Here you go, [M'lord]...(link) |
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//The basic problem, shirley, is the habit of sleeping horizontally. This takes up far too much floorspace. |
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Widely baked in the Victorian era workhouse, the skint go to sleep hanging over a rope, don't ask me how...see linky for song.. |
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The "tuppeny rope" consisted of two parallel
ropes about two metres apart with strips of
canvas stretched between, forming
hammocks. In the morning, the tension on
one windlass was slowly released, lowering
one end of the hammocks to the floor and
rendering them unusable for further sleep. |
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Referred to by Sam Weller in The Pickwick
Papers (q.v.). |
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We understand that M'lord Buchanan uses a
similar system for the serfs on his estates,
although on that case the addition of sharp
spikes on the floor below the "hammocks" is
a valuable and effective discouragement to
torpor once the waking bell has been rung
(typically, with the butt of the overseer's
whip). |
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